***** Wong (Sorcerer Supreme) *****
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I played a battle against Ihulk. Wong went away and ihulk died. Wong returned but Ihulk didn't revive.
This must be the "new way to shake up the meta" in a stealthy way.2 -
I noticed the same. The enemy was down to Chasm and Wong. Wong went away. I killed Chasm, and Wong returned but Chasm did not resurrect.
I think that one has to be a bug, but it does seem like there are a few other inconsistencies in how Wong's powers are written vs how they work.
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Probably a bug because being 'away' is a new status and their revival powers probably don't check for 'away' as a status like they do for say 'airborne'.
It worked fine with SheHulk when I downed her and Wong was away, he came back and next turn she revived.
KGB
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I think that's because She-Hulk's resurrection works a different way. When Chasm is downed, he immediately checks the void tiles count to see if he should resurrect -- no matter who's turn it is, even if there's a pending cascade. It's one of the reasons he's so good, actually...that resurrection/stun power fires before absolutely anything else happens.
She-Hulk's resurrection checks at the start of her team's turn, so if you down her first, then down the rest of her team in the same turn, she won't resurrect at all.
I don't know whether this is intentional. I don't think the powers are worded differently, but in practice it's actually a super significant power difference in Chasm's favor.
Fwiw, I think Immortal Hulk works in a different way, he's not as fast as Chasm but not as slow as She-Hulk. I don't know how Ikaris or Abomination work. It would be nice if they all had the same priority though.
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@entrailbucket said:
She-Hulk's resurrection checks at the start of her team's turn, so if you down her first, then down the rest of her team in the same turn, she won't resurrect at all.Interesting. I did not know this.
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Huh, it actually is stated that way in her power description! It says, if she's downed and there are non-downed allies, she's resurrected on her team's next turn.
I never checked in game, I just assumed it was a bug. It's confusing that She-Hulk, a character who has resurrection plus two active abilities of rather....questionable...value, purposely, by design, has a significantly worse resurrection power than Chasm, who has arguably the best passive abilities in the game.
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By the way, someone else noticed that Shulk's black power "... it makes me stronger" just continues the sentence on Ihulk's black?
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went 4 for 15 in his vault
1 witch
2 gar
1 wong0 -
I went 2/2 - one each of Switch and Gargantos. Ended 9/72: 5 Switch (now champed), 3 Garg (now 453) and only 1Wong (red). Might keep pulling for more Wongs, or just wait until he's in LL as hoarding now until Riri leaves with 111 LTs already saved.
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40 pulls
2 GG
5 Wanda
3 Wong now at 2/2/20 -
When does Wong start to get fed by abomination???
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@turbomoose said:
When does Wong start to get fed by abomination???I am really curious about this also. I know this has been asked many times. Please let us know.
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25 pulls
1 x Wong , 2 SW , 1 gargantos
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Update on the wording of the Bolt of Balthakk. On the board it now reads, “….. drain 3 enemy AP in his strongest color, and gain 1 red AP and 1 purple AP”.
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Two Scarlet Witch covers and I am calling it there as I need to repair my hoard. Wong can wait.
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@turbomoose said:
When does Wong start to get fed by abomination???Still no word on this?
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@entrailbucket said:
I noticed the same. The enemy was down to Chasm and Wong. Wong went away. I killed Chasm, and Wong returned but Chasm did not resurrect.I think that one has to be a bug, but it does seem like there are a few other inconsistencies in how Wong's powers are written vs how they work.
From my understanding, it's not a bug. The "away" power treats it like the character is essentially "gone to another dimension"/ "dead" when they're away. So if Wong goes away and during that time you kill their Chasm/ ihulk/ etc. they shouldn't regen.
Shehulk works a bit differently so wouldn't apply to her the same way.
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@IceIX said:
- 'Away' status is just that. The character in question isn't on the battlefield. When in this status, they cannot interact with the battle in any way, offensively or defensively. It's hard to deal damage when you're literally in Timbuktu.
This is why I don't believe it's a bug.
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To see things from another way, Wong went into the teamup/boost slot during those two or three turns.
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@_TrashPanda said:
@IceIX said:
- 'Away' status is just that. The character in question isn't on the battlefield. When in this status, they cannot interact with the battle in any way, offensively or defensively. It's hard to deal damage when you're literally in Timbuktu.
This is why I don't believe it's a bug.
If it's not a bug, then maybe a good counter power would be to send a random or chosen character away for one or two turns and down the resurrection character, assuming of course you were able to generate the necessary ap.
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