KGB said: DarthDeVo said: All weekend I told anyone in any of my alliance families: pull as many tokens as you can now. Get as many rewards as you can now, and then get the retroactive rewards on top when the update comes. That's what I'm doing. Why? Because that's the precedent that had been set in the past. Why should we expect much different otherwise? Thousands (probably tens of thousands across all our alliances) of Standards, Elites, Heroic, and Latest tokens were pulled. I think this is the exact reason why they did what they did. An incredible number of players attempting to double dip rewards across all tiers (3, 4 and 5). On top of that it's at a lot more champion reward spots since shards replaced multiple rewards instead of just a single reward (ie 3 shard award slots in 4* champ rewards to get 1 cover instead of just a single award for a cover at 300, 320 etc).Clearly they should have given more than 12 hrs notice and a better breakdown but it's understandable they didn't want to shower vets with tons of extra resources that other newer players weren't going to be getting.KGB
DarthDeVo said: All weekend I told anyone in any of my alliance families: pull as many tokens as you can now. Get as many rewards as you can now, and then get the retroactive rewards on top when the update comes. That's what I'm doing. Why? Because that's the precedent that had been set in the past. Why should we expect much different otherwise? Thousands (probably tens of thousands across all our alliances) of Standards, Elites, Heroic, and Latest tokens were pulled.
whitecat31 said: KGB said: DarthDeVo said: All weekend I told anyone in any of my alliance families: pull as many tokens as you can now. Get as many rewards as you can now, and then get the retroactive rewards on top when the update comes. That's what I'm doing. Why? Because that's the precedent that had been set in the past. Why should we expect much different otherwise? Thousands (probably tens of thousands across all our alliances) of Standards, Elites, Heroic, and Latest tokens were pulled. I think this is the exact reason why they did what they did. An incredible number of players attempting to double dip rewards across all tiers (3, 4 and 5). On top of that it's at a lot more champion reward spots since shards replaced multiple rewards instead of just a single reward (ie 3 shard award slots in 4* champ rewards to get 1 cover instead of just a single award for a cover at 300, 320 etc).Clearly they should have given more than 12 hrs notice and a better breakdown but it's understandable they didn't want to shower vets with tons of extra resources that other newer players weren't going to be getting.KGB KGB,The veterans feel they "earned" these rewards based on dozens upon dozens of historical precedents.Why do you reinforce a message that veterans did not "earn" these rewards that you called double dips? What exactly do you have against veterans, that you don't think they should get "paid" for their time served? The veterans have loved this game, and trusted this game to recruit constantly for this game.They showed their friends this game. They introduced their friends to the LINE and Discord communities. Many have hundreds if not thousands of Facebook friends because of this game and have introduced this game to hundreds of thousands of people.
KGB said: whitecat31 said: KGB said: DarthDeVo said: All weekend I told anyone in any of my alliance families: pull as many tokens as you can now. Get as many rewards as you can now, and then get the retroactive rewards on top when the update comes. That's what I'm doing. Why? Because that's the precedent that had been set in the past. Why should we expect much different otherwise? Thousands (probably tens of thousands across all our alliances) of Standards, Elites, Heroic, and Latest tokens were pulled. I think this is the exact reason why they did what they did. An incredible number of players attempting to double dip rewards across all tiers (3, 4 and 5). On top of that it's at a lot more champion reward spots since shards replaced multiple rewards instead of just a single reward (ie 3 shard award slots in 4* champ rewards to get 1 cover instead of just a single award for a cover at 300, 320 etc).Clearly they should have given more than 12 hrs notice and a better breakdown but it's understandable they didn't want to shower vets with tons of extra resources that other newer players weren't going to be getting.KGB KGB,The veterans feel they "earned" these rewards based on dozens upon dozens of historical precedents.Why do you reinforce a message that veterans did not "earn" these rewards that you called double dips? What exactly do you have against veterans, that you don't think they should get "paid" for their time served? The veterans have loved this game, and trusted this game to recruit constantly for this game.They showed their friends this game. They introduced their friends to the LINE and Discord communities. Many have hundreds if not thousands of Facebook friends because of this game and have introduced this game to hundreds of thousands of people. I have nothing against veterans at all.As I stated in the other big post, I fully 100% believe you should get ALL those 5* shards/covers.But I also believe you (me, everyone) should have to give back all the double dip rewards. So for a Max 370, you should have to give back 6 LTs and 60 cp. Otherwise, you earned MORE than what I would for doing the exact same thing (max champing a 4*).Hence I suggested D3 allow a 1 time customer service request (as they did when they ended cover swaps and allowed dup 5* to be broken into saved covers) from each player for anything they want addressed and then you agree to give back the double dip rewards in return for the 5* shards (or 4* or 3* etc whatever you want to address).That's fair to the entire player base. Everyone. You, me (a long time player with a fully champed 4* roster player in the 280-300 range), newer players in the 3* and below range and so on. That's all I am asking for, fairness across the board (note, I am fine with the extra 100 shard bonus for vets per 20 levels as a vet bonus).KGB
KGB said:But I also believe you (me, everyone) should have to give back all the double dip rewards. So for a Max 370, you should have to give back 6 LTs and 60 cp. Otherwise, you earned MORE than what I would for doing the exact same thing (max champing a 4*).Hence I suggested D3 allow a 1 time customer service request (as they did when they ended cover swaps and allowed dup 5* to be broken into saved covers) from each player for anything they want addressed and then you agree to give back the double dip rewards in return for the 5* shards (or 4* or 3* etc whatever you want to address).That's fair to the entire player base. Everyone. You, me (a long time player with a fully champed 4* roster player in the 280-300 range), newer players in the 3* and below range and so on. That's all I am asking for, fairness across the board (note, I am fine with the extra 100 shard bonus for vets per 20 levels as a vet bonus).KGB
KGB said: I have nothing against veterans at all.As I stated in the other big post, I fully 100% believe you should get ALL those 5* shards/covers.But I also believe you (me, everyone) should have to give back all the double dip rewards. So for a Max 370, you should have to give back 6 LTs and 60 cp. Otherwise, you earned MORE than what I would for doing the exact same thing (max champing a 4*).Hence I suggested D3 allow a 1 time customer service request (as they did when they ended cover swaps and allowed dup 5* to be broken into saved covers) from each player for anything they want addressed and then you agree to give back the double dip rewards in return for the 5* shards (or 4* or 3* etc whatever you want to address).That's fair to the entire player base. Everyone. You, me (a long time player with a fully champed 4* roster player in the 280-300 range), newer players in the 3* and below range and so on. That's all I am asking for, fairness across the board (note, I am fine with the extra 100 shard bonus for vets per 20 levels as a vet bonus).KGB