R192: Champion Rewards Updates

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  • gascangascan
    gascangascan Posts: 16 Just Dropped In
    Sorry in advance if I should already know this: I read the original post and comments as hard as I could.

    Did you guys get an in-game notification about the new system or retroactive rewards? I can see the champ progression screen changed, but I didn't get a notification or retro rewards. I should have at least gotten a few.

    Also - do characters that now have a "secondary" reward character receive shards for these retroactively - or is it just the primary?

    Thanks.
  • Dogface
    Dogface Posts: 999 Critical Contributor
    How can you lose something you never had?
  • bahamut685
    bahamut685 Posts: 210 Tile Toppler
    LOADS of missing shards from 2/3* champ rewards...

    Also super lousy that some characters got direct nerfs to their rewards. ex. 3* Captain Marvel now gives 1.5 Talos covers worth of shards, instead of literally any reward.
  • Dogface
    Dogface Posts: 999 Critical Contributor
    bahamut685 said:
    LOADS of missing shards from 2/3* champ rewards...

    Also super lousy that some characters got direct nerfs to their rewards. ex. 3* Captain Marvel now gives 1.5 Talos covers worth of shards, instead of literally any reward.
    If it's between getting Talos shards or no rewards, I'd pick the latter  ;)
  • shardwick
    shardwick Posts: 2,121 Chairperson of the Boards
    Tony_Foot said:
    Now I’ve calmed down a bit I actually think they are to be congratulated. Not in a million years did I think they could surpass some of the other launch disasters they have added to the game to disgruntled feedback.

    This one though, not only does it seem the fiercest but also the least diversive to the player base.

    Thanks for bringing almost all of us together for this holiday celebration.
    It's a Festivus miracle!
  • monsieurmojo
    monsieurmojo Posts: 370 Mover and Shaker
    shardwick said:
    Tony_Foot said:
    Thanks for bringing almost all of us together for this holiday celebration.
    It's a Festivus miracle!
    (Spoiler alert for a 30-year-old comic, but....)

    It's like the giant squid thing in Watchmen! 
  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,966 Chairperson of the Boards
    @IceIX

    I have a legitimate question. 

    Is this how future feeders are going to be rolled out? If say Eddie Brock is the feeder for Carnage, will we be getting less retroactive rewards leveling him now than if we were to wait for him to become a feeder?
  • Twysta
    Twysta Posts: 1,597 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2019
    Well this is far from what I was expecting...

    The apple has definitely fallen very far from the tree.
  • Pongie
    Pongie Posts: 1,412 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2019
    The rockett said:
    With this update, I lost 34-5* covers that I will never see again. Here is the breakdown and this is based of the standard that DEMI set for almost 2 years of feeders.  This wasn’t set by the player base, this was there Standard Operating Procedures. 


    Champ Rewards Update:

    Character- cover : shards (old system) { amount lost} 

    5* 

    Archangel-1  : 500 (6)  {4}

    Cable-2 : 500 (7) {4}

    Doom-1 : 150 + 600 (5) {2.5}

    Gambit-2 : 500 (7)  { 4} 

    Hela-1 (1) {even}

    Iceman-1 : 500 (6) {4}

    Kitty-1 : 100 (2) {.80}

    PX-1 : 500 (6) {4}

    Rescue-2 : 500 (7) {4}

    Storm-1 : 500 (6) {4}

    Banner-1 : 500 (6) {4}


    If you think this is acceptable to lose 34-5* covers then I really don’t know what to say.  

    I didn't miss out on as many 5* covers as you but what pains me are those that will fall short of completing (Hela). Any 5* already championed, the lost of additional champion levels doesn't really matter. There are some that would take more covers/levels before completing the 5* too (was looking forward to championing cable and rescue). It's baffling how having lower champion levels actually works out better here. In hindsight, we needed to save all the covers of 4* champions without feeders instead of applying them as champion levels.
  • whitecat31
    whitecat31 Posts: 579 Critical Contributor
    edited December 2019
    "In addition you will gain 100 shards, for each 250 shard milestone you passed."

    Who ever thought that was a good idea, did not consider the ramifications. 
    1. It tells players it is punitive to champion a 4 star until it is a feeder. 
    2. It says you don't care about your loyal players, who are used to getting the rewards they missed out on.
    3. It also fundamentally violated the promise given to us in November of 2017  https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/comment/749081#Comment_749081

    This should have said, 
    "In addition you will gain all the shard milestones you missed out on"
  • WEBGAS
    WEBGAS Posts: 474 Mover and Shaker
    Never in my wildest dreams I could have imagined to be fooled like this, once again.
    Beware D3, you created al lot of angry and disillusioned players  >:)
  • whitecat31
    whitecat31 Posts: 579 Critical Contributor
    bluewolf said:
    granne said:
    Momo988 said:
    What’s clear is that the new feeders were treated the same as existing feeders. If that’s as intended, then it’s not what was communicated. If it’s a mistake, it would be helpful to know if it’s being fixed. Whether it is a or b would be a helpful clarification from The team. 
    Exactly. I have no problem with the idea of not receiving shards if you've already received covers (especially since some of us will have received LTs as well as covers). It's the 20% of expected shards on new feeders that bothers me. If it was intended, it might just be the push I need to spend my time on something else.
    Anthony on Discord said in no uncertain terms that the rewards we received are the intended rewards.

    Everyone needs to fully understand this and not hope for some update or fix. This is it.
    Would it be safe to say that Anthony does not think the customer is always right?
    Clearly canceling VIP means nothing. What if the customers said "buy group boycott"?
  • Razuhlui
    Razuhlui Posts: 34 Just Dropped In
    IceIX said:

    The Champion Reward updates will update rewards for 2-Stars, 3-Stars, and 4-Stars, update the characters that are rewarded for 3-Stars and 4-Stars, and will give you retroactive rewards if you have already earned the Champion Rewards. That’s a lot to chew through, so let’s dive in!

    And again, that's not how the update was rolled out.
    Where are my maxed Champion 2*  and 3*rewards.
  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,238 Chairperson of the Boards
    DarthDeVo said:


    All weekend I told anyone in any of my alliance families: pull as many tokens as you can now. Get as many rewards as you can now, and then get the retroactive rewards on top when the update comes. That's what I'm doing. 

    Why? 

    Because that's the precedent that had been set in the past. Why should we expect much different otherwise? 

    Thousands (probably tens of thousands across all our alliances) of Standards, Elites, Heroic, and Latest tokens were pulled.


    I think this is the exact reason why they did what they did. An incredible number of players attempting to double dip rewards across all tiers (3, 4 and 5). On top of that it's at a lot more champion reward spots since shards replaced multiple rewards instead of just a single reward (ie 3 shard award slots in 4* champ rewards to get 1 cover instead of just a single award for a cover at 300, 320 etc).

    Clearly they should have given more than 12 hrs notice and a better breakdown but it's understandable they didn't want to shower vets with tons of extra resources that other newer players weren't going to be getting.

    KGB
  • jp1
    jp1 Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
    Who cares what someone else receives? Does it change your enjoyment of the game?

    If we want to start about what’s fair, let’s post up our hours played and monetary investments and we can see who deserves what. The socialist approach won’t keep businesses running unfortunately.

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