R192: Champion Rewards Updates

DAZ0273

Ah that would explain that. Totally confused otherwise as to what was received.

MegaBee

bluewolf said:

granne said:

Momo988 said:

What’s clear is that the new feeders were treated the same as existing feeders. If that’s as intended, then it’s not what was communicated. If it’s a mistake, it would be helpful to know if it’s being fixed. Whether it is a or b would be a helpful clarification from The team. 

Exactly. I have no problem with the idea of not receiving shards if you've already received covers (especially since some of us will have received LTs as well as covers). It's the 20% of expected shards on new feeders that bothers me. If it was intended, it might just be the push I need to spend my time on something else.

Anthony on Discord said in no uncertain terms that the rewards we received are the intended rewards.

Everyone needs to fully understand this and not hope for some update or fix. This is it.

People shouldn't have to go to Discord for official communication when the official forum is right here.

bowla33

@IceIX is either a straight up liar or the devs fed him bullspit. 

This game gets no investment from me any longer. 

No shards match the mile stones noted, significantly less covers for NEW 5* feeders and reduced rewards for new 4s. 

gotskott

It feels like all my goals have been moved further away and will take longer to achieve. Went to play this morning and a feeling of "Why bother?" just came over me.

On the plus side, more free time to work on real life goals and extra money each month. Thanks Devs! 

(Actually, I really appreciate those people who actually do the work of writing this game. It's been fun to play and they've done a lot of hard work to make it enjoyable. Thank you, even if I don't agree with what those in charge decided.) 

statnut

gotskott said:

It feels like all my goals have been moved further away and will take longer to achieve. Went to play this morning and a feeling of "Why bother?" just came over me.

On the plus side, more free time to work on real life goals and extra money each month. Thanks Devs! 

(Actually, I really appreciate those people who actually do the work of writing this game. It's been fun to play and they've done a lot of hard work to make it enjoyable. Thank you, even if I don't agree with what those in charge decided.) 

Honestly, I'm starting to feel the same way, and I'm sure we're not alone.

JSP869

How happy will the shareholders be when the customers (paying players) decide enough is enough?

We're not whining about "free" stuff, because its not free because we pay to play this game. And because we pay to play this game, just like the shareholders we expect to see a return (enjoyment, perceived value, etc.) on our "investment" too.

50% of the average F2P game's revenue comes from 0.15% of its paying players, with 1% of the players accounting for 95-99% of a game's revenue.

We are not a vocal minority whining about a lack of "free stuff"; we are D3's customers, and as its customers we were making their shareholders happy. Were. Because if your customers aren't happy they stop being customers (non-paying players are not customers), and if you have no customers your shareholders are not going to be happy.

tsdchaos

I am not active on the forums, but I honestly feel like I need to point this out. A lot of people are really just whining over a perceived slight. Three days ago, you all didn't know what the new rewards would be for champ levels. Yesterday you found out what they were. Today you all got shards and covers for champ levels you had already received rewards for. Now you are complaining that the extra rewards for doing nothing are not good enough. You say you paid to play this game, well good for you. You got HP and CP and ISO out of that. You got LL tokens and covers for 4* and 5* covers. Now you got more covers and shards for no extra investment. Maybe stop complaining so much, realize you got some extra rewards at no additional investment, and enjoy the game. Or don't. You are also welcome to quit. Maybe then there will be fewer voices complaining about how their free stuff isn't as good as they want.

MegaBee

tsdchaos said:

I am not active on the forums, but I honestly feel like I need to point this out. A lot of people are really just whining over a perceived slight. Three days ago, you all didn't know what the new rewards would be for champ levels. Yesterday you found out what they were. Today you all got shards and covers for champ levels you had already received rewards for. Now you are complaining that the extra rewards for doing nothing are not good enough. You say you paid to play this game, well good for you. You got HP and CP and ISO out of that. You got LL tokens and covers for 4* and 5* covers. Now you got more covers and shards for no extra investment. Maybe stop complaining so much, realize you got some extra rewards at no additional investment, and enjoy the game. Or don't. You are also welcome to quit. Maybe then there will be fewer voices complaining about how their free stuff isn't as good as they want.

Are you a dev...?

pheregas

tsdchaos said:

I am not active on the forums, but I honestly feel like I need to point this out. A lot of people are really just whining over a perceived slight. Three days ago, you all didn't know what the new rewards would be for champ levels. Yesterday you found out what they were. Today you all got shards and covers for champ levels you had already received rewards for. Now you are complaining that the extra rewards for doing nothing are not good enough. You say you paid to play this game, well good for you. You got HP and CP and ISO out of that. You got LL tokens and covers for 4* and 5* covers. Now you got more covers and shards for no extra investment. Maybe stop complaining so much, realize you got some extra rewards at no additional investment, and enjoy the game. Or don't. You are also welcome to quit. Maybe then there will be fewer voices complaining about how their free stuff isn't as good as they want.

Dude.  You are completely wrong.  Every other rewards update ever has retroactively rewarded the covers that were not there in the past.  Every Time.

It was not unreasonable to expect the same this time.

Instead, we were given no covers/shards for new 4*s being added nor were we given the equivalent of the correct amount of 5s.

Think of it this way.  4* Prof now gives 5* Prof cover/shards.  Previous Latest Legendary rewards would not have included 5* Prof as HE DID NOT EXIST IN THE GAME.  So instead of getting the total amount of shards (500 between each of those levels), I got 100.  A fifth.  I have zero opportunity to get the cover simply because I've been here longer.  No other reason.

tsdchaos

Nope. Got 0 connection with the company. I just enjoy the game and don't like seeing people **** all over free stuff because they feel they are entitled to more free stuff

shinnaruto

TSD, it is just odd that your first post rails against the other players right now. Maybe it is also the timing.

marshall

Thank you for punishing those that build characters up over the years hoping that one day they'd become relevant to help finish some non-meta, never fixed character.

If we're talking what game companies usually do, and "y'all should be happy for the free stuff", most game companies eventually fix broken characters and do rebalances. They tend to make sure all their platforms are supported properly (hello steam users!).

I'm very disappointed, it feels so petty, so needlessly convoluted.

Anyway, I guess this is it for me. Thanks for the years of gaming and the friends along the way.

Razuhlui

Did anyone mentioned that there is no costume on the first day of the vip? Silently changed. 

tsdchaos

shinnaruto said:

TSD, it is just odd that your first post rails against the other players right now. Maybe it is also the timing.

I understand why it might seem odd. But i simply enjoy lurking most of the time. The devs communicate on discord and the forums through official channels. 

MegaBee

tsdchaos said:

shinnaruto said:

TSD, it is just odd that your first post rails against the other players right now. Maybe it is also the timing.

I understand why it might seem odd. But i simply enjoy lurking most of the time. The devs communicate on discord and the forums through official channels. 

Is Discord an official communication channel?

BoyWonder1914

tsdchaos said:

Nope. Got 0 connection with the company. I just enjoy the game and don't like seeing people tinykitty all over free stuff because they feel they are entitled to more free stuff

It can be objectively proven that the given rewards DID not line up with what was stated in the original post. That's not "feeling entitled" to free stuff, that's them going back on their word. Just because no asked them to do this (at least in this way) doesn't mean they get to fall back on, "but look at all the free stuff you're getting!"

Yepyep

DAZ0273 said:

Ah that would explain that. Totally confused otherwise as to what was received.

Me, too. And it's mighty hard to figure out just what was received because there's no audit trail or history button or whatever. From what I have tracked down so far, some of it seems right, some of it not.

I will say, however, that it is not at all like what I think we were led to believe was going to happen...

shinnaruto

MegaBee said:

tsdchaos said:

shinnaruto said:

TSD, it is just odd that your first post rails against the other players right now. Maybe it is also the timing.

I understand why it might seem odd. But i simply enjoy lurking most of the time. The devs communicate on discord and the forums through official channels. 

Is Discord an official communication channel?

MegaBee, I saw the post that the update to the rewards were rolled out as intended first on Discord.

pheregas

MegaBee said:

tsdchaos said:

shinnaruto said:

TSD, it is just odd that your first post rails against the other players right now. Maybe it is also the timing.

I understand why it might seem odd. But i simply enjoy lurking most of the time. The devs communicate on discord and the forums through official channels. 

Is Discord an official communication channel?

Nope.  Which is why you're more likely to find devs there rather than in the official forums.  

shinnaruto

TSD, another valid point that a lot have: many busted their hoards before the rollout because it was stated that we would be get the difference between the old and new. Now, if they had waited post update, they actually would have come out in the positive in rewards. Now they ended up with less due to what was told to the players.

That see like a valid issue instead of feeling entitled.