HoundofShadow said: I find that comment weird. I interpret it as why are players arguing about what is considered free stuff. What's the context?
crackninja said: For those saying there must be more updates coming, this is as ice described it in the updates, so I see no reason to expect more.
DarthDeVo said: For the record, I very much had a "wait and see" approach in regards to shards. They're essentially colorless covers, a long-requested feature. I knew there were likely gonna be some tradeoffs. When they were initially announced and implemented and some people immediately went negative, I was still waiting to see what the full picture would look like before weighing in. I realize there will likely still be updates to PvE and PvP placement/progression rewards to include shards. But if this update is any indication, just stop. Please stop the bleeding. Go back to bonus heroes. With each update, it seems better and better in hindsight and comparison. Give us back our CP/HP/ISO in champ rewards. Keep the Mighty Tokens though, those are OK.How's the song go? "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone?"Thanks for proving that true once again.
Polares said: DarthDeVo said: For the record, I very much had a "wait and see" approach in regards to shards. They're essentially colorless covers, a long-requested feature. I knew there were likely gonna be some tradeoffs. When they were initially announced and implemented and some people immediately went negative, I was still waiting to see what the full picture would look like before weighing in. I realize there will likely still be updates to PvE and PvP placement/progression rewards to include shards. But if this update is any indication, just stop. Please stop the bleeding. Go back to bonus heroes. With each update, it seems better and better in hindsight and comparison. Give us back our CP/HP/ISO in champ rewards. Keep the Mighty Tokens though, those are OK.How's the song go? "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone?"Thanks for proving that true once again. This is a fricking disaster! I don't remember something like this in 6 years!I was also having a wait and see with the replacement of BH with Shards, but it is now crystal clear what they wanted. Sell those shard offers for HP and money. And or course they have removed HP from all tiers, so now you need to buy HP for money, And on top of that they have screwed the release of the new Feeders! In one day they have "robbed" me of like 10 covers or more for the new feeders! This is just nuts.
killahKlown said: crackninja said: For those saying there must be more updates coming, this is as ice described it in the updates, so I see no reason to expect more. they've reverted in the past based on mass uproar
crackninja said: killahKlown said: crackninja said: For those saying there must be more updates coming, this is as ice described it in the updates, so I see no reason to expect more. they've reverted in the past based on mass uproar Changing their minds could happen, but just saying this was not a mistake or staggered payout
BoyWonder1914 said: It feels like almost ever since they started feeders they made it clear that they didn't want veteran characters getting big pay days of 5-star covers from high-level feeders. Very rarely did they pick someone that a lot of folks would have at a high level, they would pick relatively newly released characters or unpopular characters. Then there was the infamous Discord chat where they felt they were giving out feeders "too frequently". Can't say it comes as a surprise that they changed the retroactive rewards for something much less generous.
Vhailorx said: Polares said: DarthDeVo said: For the record, I very much had a "wait and see" approach in regards to shards. They're essentially colorless covers, a long-requested feature. I knew there were likely gonna be some tradeoffs. When they were initially announced and implemented and some people immediately went negative, I was still waiting to see what the full picture would look like before weighing in. I realize there will likely still be updates to PvE and PvP placement/progression rewards to include shards. But if this update is any indication, just stop. Please stop the bleeding. Go back to bonus heroes. With each update, it seems better and better in hindsight and comparison. Give us back our CP/HP/ISO in champ rewards. Keep the Mighty Tokens though, those are OK.How's the song go? "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone?"Thanks for proving that true once again. This is a fricking disaster! I don't remember something like this in 6 years!I was also having a wait and see with the replacement of BH with Shards, but it is now crystal clear what they wanted. Sell those shard offers for HP and money. And or course they have removed HP from all tiers, so now you need to buy HP for money, And on top of that they have screwed the release of the new Feeders! In one day they have "robbed" me of like 10 covers or more for the new feeders! This is just nuts. The first run Galactus was this bad (in rounds 7 and 8 and he was a certain team wipe in 3 turns). And Boss rush was definitely this bad. But neither of those mistakes had the breadth of impact of this system.
Vhailorx said: BoyWonder1914 said: It feels like almost ever since they started feeders they made it clear that they didn't want veteran characters getting big pay days of 5-star covers from high-level feeders. Very rarely did they pick someone that a lot of folks would have at a high level, they would pick relatively newly released characters or unpopular characters. Then there was the infamous Discord chat where they felt they were giving out feeders "too frequently". Can't say it comes as a surprise that they changed the retroactive rewards for something much less generous. This is definitely a true reflection of how demi/d3 feel. But I never understood why. In the most extreme scenario, the old system meant giving out 6x 5* covers to those players with level 360+ 4* champs. But how many players have level 360+ 4*s without spending? And how many of them would have spent more, but for a windfall of 6x 5* covers? That seems like a vanishingly small population, but demi always acted like it was a critical concern. I feel like I am missing something.Six champ levels just don't seem like that big a deal for those players with dozens of 5* champs. I know I use my 450 okoye a whole lot more than 455 SS.