R192: Champion Rewards Updates

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  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2019
    Are there whales with 4 max champed 4* or at least 3 max champed 4* with half way champed 4*? The maximum number of shards that can be saved is 9999, so a whales with 4 or at least 3.5 champed 4* of the same character will probably down the server? 
  • ejmus
    ejmus Posts: 57 Match Maker
    This was confusing and needlessly disappointing (if they would have just spelled it out more clearly earlier). I think the key words were "TLDR, if you would have missed Shards towards a cover but *haven’t yet received that cover in full*, you’ll get those Shards."
    In other words, since shards only pay off when completed, they were giving them retroactively so that anyone who were relying on those shards to get to the next cover, would have the full set. What that means, is that if you already have the next cover in the set, you don't need what the shards would have provided, you didn't miss out on anything, so you don't get that extra, and so on.
  • tupacboy
    tupacboy Posts: 129 Tile Toppler
    Probably too big of a update and this was just phase one :)
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2019
    Man, I just read this, I open the Game, and I got like five 5s covers! 

    Now that I am starting to look at it though, I think I got waaaaaay less shards that I should have. For rescue I should have got 1500 shards and I just got 300 !!! 

    PS: Of course, I need just one more cover for Doom and I got the one color I already have at 5... :(
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    tupacboy said:
    Probably too big of a update and this was just phase one :)
    Can I interest you in a slightly used bridge for sale?
  • chris0001
    chris0001 Posts: 205 Tile Toppler
    Well a least there was a developer on Discord adding fuel to the fire.....comment went something like this...."So why is everyone complaining about what amounts to free stuff".  Really don't think that's the way it should be handled  lol
  • killahKlown
    killahKlown Posts: 585 Critical Contributor
    tupacboy said:
    Probably too big of a update and this was just phase one :)
    Yeah hopefully you are right and they are just giving us the tip for now.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    chris0001 said:
    Well a least there was a developer on Discord adding fuel to the fire.....comment went something like this...."So why is everyone complaining about what amounts to free stuff".  Really don't think that's the way it should be handled  lol
    *Sigh* maybe they can also complain that we are just whiny, entitled millennials.  That will go over really well!
  • MegaBee
    MegaBee Posts: 1,075 Chairperson of the Boards
    chris0001 said:
    Well a least there was a developer on Discord adding fuel to the fire.....comment went something like this...."So why is everyone complaining about what amounts to free stuff".  Really don't think that's the way it should be handled  lol
    Well, that's one more reason for me to just ignore that part of Discord.
  • Nabistay
    Nabistay Posts: 146 Tile Toppler
    My experience and examples:

    Shards normally given out at 295 (100), 298 (150), and 300 (250)

    Old Feeders:
    <280: Nothing (Example: Spiderman IW[277] -> 0 anything Spiderman BIB)
    >280, <=294: Nothing (Example: Shuri[285]-> 0 Okoye)
    >294, <=297: 100 shards (Example: Medusa[297]->100 BB shards)
    >297, <=299: 250 shards (Example: X-Force[298]->250 OML shards)
    >300, <=314: Nothing (Example: Gamora[302] -> 0 Thanos anything)

    New Feeders (Emma>Kitty, Cyclops>Cable, InvisWoman>Doom, Magik>Hela, Cho>Hulk, HB>Rescue, Thor>Storm, Iceman>Iceman, Rogue>Gambit, Nightcrawler>Archangel, ProfX>ProfX)
    <280: Nothing (Example: Emma Frost[271]->0 Kitty rewards)
    >280, <=294: 1 Cover (Example: Professor X[294]->1 cover, 0 shards)
    >294, <=297: 1 Cover, no example
    >297, <=299: 1 Cover, no example
    >300, <=314: 1 Cover, 100 Shards (Example: Hulkbuster[302]->1 cover, 100 shards)


    I find it most frustrating that my 298 X-Force is 150 shards closer to an OML cover than my 302 Hulkbuster is to a rescue cover

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    I find that comment weird. I interpret it as why are players arguing about what is considered free stuff. What's the context?
  • Loosie
    Loosie Posts: 397 Mover and Shaker
    Secondary characters aside Magik, Valkyrie and Nightcrawler were all made new PRIMARY rewards. But nothing came for them
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,522 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2019
    @IceIX I have a level 306 Rogue, and only got a Gambit cover + 100 shards. What happens now with what would have been the level 300 cover I no longer get since I didn’t get any of those earned shards?

    my 298 Vulture picked up the correct number of Parker shards.

    It looks like what happened was that new feeder character shards were treated the same as existing feeder character conversions?

    was this intended?

    I also got 200 shards each for XFDP and XFW, but no other 4*s. What happened there? I would have expected to get a shard-value cover for Sabretooth off my lvl 241 Patch Wolverine, but got 0 shards.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2019
    I find that comment weird. I interpret it as why are players arguing about what is considered free stuff. What's the context?
    I read it as dev feeling defensive about player outrage over these retroactive rewards and asking "why are players upset when all of these retroactive rewards amount to 'free stuff.'"

    I am sure it sucks to take a lot of harsh criticism on line, but there are many many things wrong with that statement.
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2019
    Oh my what a mess. This is pretty bad for old rosters. We have been genuinely screwed with the feeders (I don't even care about the 3 to 4 rewards).

    So with my 340 IMHB instead of 4 Rescue covers I get 1 and 300 shards? (and the correct amount should have been 1500, not even the retroactive compensation is right)
    With my 358 Cyclops instead of 5 Cable covers I get 1 and 750 shards?

    And it something similar for Storm and Iceman. Like SERIOUSLY??????
  • crackninja
    crackninja Posts: 444 Mover and Shaker
    I could see why they went this route, not wanting is to get the cp rewards and shards...except didn't they tell us that the losses were minimal and we'd never notice?  And didn't they previously, k knowingly, let us double dip on LT's and the 5* covers?

    They knew full well what they were doing all along.  And their silence and super late announcement patterns followed by more silence only cements in my mind their intentions and understanding of the response they would receive.
  • MrEd95
    MrEd95 Posts: 280 Mover and Shaker
    There must be more batches of rewards coming at a later point. To use a fan favourite character, talos, as an example, I have a level 262 3* captain marvel, and in the listed rewards, there are ticks next to all the ‘received’ talos shards. However, if I look at Talos, he is sitting on zero shards currently. I should have at least received some, if it were all delivered in the same data push.

    im sure there will still be some shards that slip the net, but there should definitely be some more coming
  • DarthDeVo
    DarthDeVo Posts: 2,178 Chairperson of the Boards
    For the record, I very much had a "wait and see" approach in regards to shards. 

    They're essentially colorless covers, a long-requested feature. I knew there were likely gonna be some  tradeoffs. 

    When they were initially announced and implemented and some people immediately went negative, I was still waiting to see what the full picture would look like before weighing in. 

    I realize there will likely still be updates to PvE and PvP placement/progression rewards to include shards. 

    But if this update is any indication, just stop. Please stop the bleeding. Go back to bonus heroes. With each update, it seems better and better in hindsight and comparison. Give us back our CP/HP/ISO in champ rewards. Keep the Mighty Tokens though, those are OK.

    How's the song go? "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone?"

    Thanks for proving that true once again.