Time Gem Season Updates *Updated (10/19/17)

broll said:

tiomono said:

corytutor said:

Available to all in the sense that all had a chance to obtain it. 

If the cp is on the progression side, anyone who chooses to get it can do so. 
A lot more people can hit x number of wins than can creep into t10. Its not rocket science. 

But the chance for every player to get into top 10 is still there. So in that sense it's still available to all.

ROFL!!  What?!  No it's not...  By default 10 people get T10 and another 490 cannot (assuming full bracket).  People can snipe, but only 10 per bracket would get the T10 sniping.  It's a mathematical impossibility for everyone to get T10 the way the game works.

But it's possible for any player to compete. So any player could get it with proper play. Obviously not every player finishes top 10 but you can if you play it right. 

fmftint said:

The reason command points aren't in progression is simple,  they don't want EVERYONE to earn it. But saying that directly is bad PR so we get the spun version,  more players make T10 than 1200!

High five

Yeah, obviously.  That's why I have been trying to call out brigby on the absurdity of that spin for the past 24 hours.

broll said:

tiomono said:

broll said:

tiomono said:

corytutor said:

Available to all in the sense that all had a chance to obtain it. 

If the cp is on the progression side, anyone who chooses to get it can do so. 
A lot more people can hit x number of wins than can creep into t10. Its not rocket science. 

But the chance for every player to get into top 10 is still there. So in that sense it's still available to all.

ROFL!!  What?!  No it's not...  By default 10 people get T10 and another 490 cannot (assuming full bracket).  People can snipe, but only 10 per bracket would get the T10 sniping.  It's a mathematical impossibility for everyone to get T10 the way the game works.

But it's possible for any player to compete. So any player could get it with proper play. Obviously not every player finishes top 10 but you can if you play it right. 

So if 12 people do 'proper play' they all get it?  No... say 40 top tier 5* players all end up in the same bracket.  Play as 'proper' as they want, only 10 of them are getting that regardless if they all go up to 300,000 points.  That's the complaint.  It's not invalid either.

At the start of a marathon do they tell everyone don't bother racing only 10% can finish in the top 10? Every competitor has the chance to finish in a high placement. It comes down to how bad do you want it.

tiomono said:

broll said:

tiomono said:

broll said:

tiomono said:

corytutor said:

Available to all in the sense that all had a chance to obtain it. 

If the cp is on the progression side, anyone who chooses to get it can do so. 
A lot more people can hit x number of wins than can creep into t10. Its not rocket science. 

But the chance for every player to get into top 10 is still there. So in that sense it's still available to all.

ROFL!!  What?!  No it's not...  By default 10 people get T10 and another 490 cannot (assuming full bracket).  People can snipe, but only 10 per bracket would get the T10 sniping.  It's a mathematical impossibility for everyone to get T10 the way the game works.

But it's possible for any player to compete. So any player could get it with proper play. Obviously not every player finishes top 10 but you can if you play it right. 

So if 12 people do 'proper play' they all get it?  No... say 40 top tier 5* players all end up in the same bracket.  Play as 'proper' as they want, only 10 of them are getting that regardless if they all go up to 300,000 points.  That's the complaint.  It's not invalid either.

At the start of a marathon do they tell everyone don't bother racing only 10% can finish in the top 10? Every competitor has the chance to finish in a high placement. It comes down to how bad do you want it.

It's the difference between saying that every runner in a 500 person marathan has a chance to:

(1) finish in the top 10, or
(2) finish in less than 2:30.

#1 is absolutely impossible.  #2 is very unlikely because running a marathon that fast is hard.  But individual ability is the limiting factor, not basic arithmetic.

tiomono said:

broll said:

tiomono said:

broll said:

tiomono said:

corytutor said:

Available to all in the sense that all had a chance to obtain it. 

If the cp is on the progression side, anyone who chooses to get it can do so. 
A lot more people can hit x number of wins than can creep into t10. Its not rocket science. 

But the chance for every player to get into top 10 is still there. So in that sense it's still available to all.

ROFL!!  What?!  No it's not...  By default 10 people get T10 and another 490 cannot (assuming full bracket).  People can snipe, but only 10 per bracket would get the T10 sniping.  It's a mathematical impossibility for everyone to get T10 the way the game works.

But it's possible for any player to compete. So any player could get it with proper play. Obviously not every player finishes top 10 but you can if you play it right. 

So if 12 people do 'proper play' they all get it?  No... say 40 top tier 5* players all end up in the same bracket.  Play as 'proper' as they want, only 10 of them are getting that regardless if they all go up to 300,000 points.  That's the complaint.  It's not invalid either.

At the start of a marathon do they tell everyone don't bother racing only 10% can finish in the top 10? Every competitor has the chance to finish in a high placement. It comes down to how bad do you want it.

Prefect example.  Say the 15 CP was a trophy you got for finishing the race (even if you were dead last).  It was technically possible for all 500 players to get it (but practically impossible for most).  Now it's a placement reward that only 10 people per bracket can get.  It's literally impossible for more than 10 people to get instead of practically impossible.  

In reality the toughest brackets some people who would have got it 1200 will miss out.  In the easiest brackets more people will get it.  It's a very odd change and IMO it's totally reasonable to be upset about it.  While I'm all for the win based change they tinykitty the pooch on this aspect of it.

corytutor said:

Anyone who thinks removong a reward accessible to all, and only makes it available to the top 2 % and says its for everyone's benefit is either a liar, stupid, or both. 

Quote number one, I didnt even want to dignify it with a response

Vhailorx said:

corytutor said:

Anyone who thinks removong a reward accessible to all, and only makes it available to the top 2 % and says its for everyone's benefit is either a liar, stupid, or both. 

I agree with much of the content of this post, though the tone is a bit more conspiratorial than I think is useful. 

But the last parahraph is wrong.  

Quote 2.  I am not taking what they said at face value, foolish or not.  I'm saying I can understand the reasoning we are coming up with on our own.  We are all free to disagree on how we come to our conclusion, and what that conclusion is, but to just say that anyone that does not agree with you must be a liar or stupid has no place in a respectable discussion.

Brigby said:

Hi Everyone. I'm sorry I was only able to post this information late in the evening. I'll be sure to be in this thread tomorrow morning (9am PDT), but if you have any questions or comments then please post them below and I will be sure to answer them then. 

Thank you for understanding!

@Brigby that was two days ago ....still waiting! 

mega ghost said:

The fact that I can't even see the upcoming season or System Reboot in-game yet is making me wonder if they've delayed the push because they're fine-tuning it up until the wire, either because a) they're responding to some feedback or b) they rushed this change and didn't have time to implement or message it properly.

I'm hoping on a) but based on how this is unfolding it's probably b). 

I thought that the new season and System Reboot didn't appear until the first PvP started, which isn't until 7 PM central tonight. That's when I'm expecting them to appear.