Supports are coming to PVP

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  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,600 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    The issue you describe matters to probably less than 1% of the player base. Plus, at that level isn't everything already rigged anyway (ie shield check rooms, baking, not hitting certain other alliances) with regards to who gets to win events/seasons? For everyone else it doesn't. PvP also seems fine with everyone boosting tons of AP which also speeds up matches and does everything else in your argument. If AP boosts are fine why isn't a bit more AP boosts from supports fine?

    The the question is do you throw out supports in PvP for <1% of the player base or do they have to adapt to the new normal that everyone else operates under just fine.

    KGB

    AP boosts are already limited to +4, it used to be higher but was changed because the 1%ers abused it.

    All the PvP matchmaking stuff that everybody hates/doesn't understand? Every single one of those weird fixes was put in place because the 1% abused some aspect of matchmaking in the past.

    Relatively small groups of players can have very large impacts on the game as a whole. Before the devs killed cupcakes, almost every player could trivially hit max prog in PvP -- the top scorers were consistently putting up like 5k or something, and max prog was like top 250.

    Look at the difference in point values between the slices! That's all down to how a few groups of 1%ers play. Those players matter in PvP.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 573 Critical Contributor

    @KGB said:

    Boosts. +2 All = 12. +2 in 2 other colors gives 8 more for a total of +20.

    Get +10 more from 3 Supports that give out starting AP.

    KGB

    May counts tu ap as well so +2 all gives 14.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,600 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Tony_Foot said:

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    The trickle down is always a poor excuse for the cheating. If the game was actually played like a proper PvP then the scores wouldn’t be as high and the reward tiers would have been changed to reflect that.

    If this means collaborating cheaters can be hit faster I’m all for it, at my level I’m only ever going to be hit while I’m worth points.

    It won't mean that. The snipers will get faster but the hoppers will also get faster. All it'll do is push out any players who don't have (or don't want to use) the fastest possible stuff.

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,023 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:

    I mean it's an experiment. A terrible experiment that is feeding penguins to a wood chipper to see if that grows more penguins but they already said they can turn off the wood chipper. Maybe it will end up as the craziest PvP season for ages or maybe it will be like the Rotten Tomatoes score for The Acolyte. Either way a boycott over this would be childish and ludicrous.

    Can confirm this is indeed a horrific experiment, there is blood everywhere its worse than the horse sized duck incident of 2022.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,569 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    Boosts. +2 All = 12. +2 in 2 other colors gives 8 more for a total of +20.

    Get +10 more from 3 Supports that give out starting AP.

    KGB

    Isn't boost all hard to come by
    What 3 supports give ap. Thought it was just a chance to get more ap

    I know my Emma does need to find the other

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,541 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited June 2024

    @slidecage said:

    Isn't boost all hard to come by
    What 3 supports give ap. Thought it was just a chance to get more ap

    I know my Emma does need to find the other

    You can use ISO to get boosts (the All AP ones you need hero points). Dedicated players have no problem buying lots of them.

    All the supports only give you a chance at AP. But at R5 it gets up to 80%. At 80%, the chance that you get 0 extra AP is .2x.2x.2=.008 or <1% of the time. So 99% of the time you'll get at least one set of extra AP from a support. At that point you'll have 27 or so AP (forgot that TU counts so you start with 22 AP from boosts). That should be enough to one shot.

    KGB

  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,537 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    Look at the difference in point values between the slices! That's all down to how a few groups of 1%ers play. Those players matter in PvP.

    We should just be grateful that nothing of National importance is related to this game. I hesitate to think about WarThunder Line rooms.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,542 Chairperson of the Boards

    Hopefully some upgrades to support search and filter are coming along with this now that we need to know what they all do.

  • revskip
    revskip Posts: 1,069 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    It won't mean that. The snipers will get faster but the hoppers will also get faster. All it'll do is push out any players who don't have (or don't want to use) the fastest possible stuff.

    That's pretty much what I expect to see. looking forward to the temporary chaos.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,936 Chairperson of the Boards

    Maybe somebody will do a thread to help so that I know that Aunt May should be equipped with Love Eggs and not Namor's horn or whatever.

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,023 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Maybe somebody will do a thread to help so that I know that Aunt May should be equipped with Love Eggs and not Namor's horn or whatever.

    Question, are we talking about tom Holland aunt may or Tobey maguire aunt may

  • Captain_Trips88
    Captain_Trips88 Posts: 268 Mover and Shaker

    @ThisisClemFandango said:

    Question, are we talking about tom Holland aunt may or Tobey maguire aunt may

    I’ll be honest, I’m not sure which one you are hoping for…

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,023 Chairperson of the Boards

    Exceptional work from the capt there

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,936 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThisisClemFandango said:

    Question, are we talking about tom Holland aunt may or Tobey maguire aunt may

    Eh, either has certain benefits.

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited June 2024

    Had a match against the omega red heroic boss end without making a move. My storm breaker support on mthor created a few red tiles on the first turn that happened to create a match 5 and then cascade into more match 5's that killed OR before any move was made.

    I bet people are gonna love it against defensive teams after they've made one single move and some shenanigans like that take some one out or end the match immediately.

  • The_Boogie
    The_Boogie Posts: 25 Just Dropped In

    I’m really looking forward to this. As someone who tries to counteract the lack of rewards because of my PVE ineptitude by grinding out extra wins for 1* and 2* covers in PVP, this will make it a lot easier.

  • Tanglefoot
    Tanglefoot Posts: 147 Tile Toppler

    Did anyone really want this? This is supposed to be a simple game. Making it MORE complicated is a fail. Ascensions almost made me quit. Supports in pvp probably will.

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