***** Wong (Sorcerer Supreme) *****

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  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't remember saying Wong will be top tier, neither did I say that he won't put a target on your back. All I said was he is a good defensive/support option against future meta. Having good defensive/support abilities doesn't mean that it will deter attacks and won't put a target on your back. What it means is that it will be easier to deal with them, compared to playing mirror match. If you want something that won't put a target on your back, then please don't complain about lack of diversity in pvp because almost everyone (Line/Forum/Competitive) will be running such teams.

    Over the past few years of meta, some players would rather play meta mirror match and then feel miserable rather than using something that counters those meta more effectively. The most recent example, as all know, is Chasm/iHulk. There are so many counters out there, some acknowledged by 550 players, but yet some players would rather play mirror match that made them feel terrible/miserable.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,479 Chairperson of the Boards

    I remember when some players were banging on about Odin and how he would be all over SHIELD Sim because he is a bit annoying. I am still waiting. Is this another one of those cases with Wong? I don't have enough resources to predict the future where Wong teleports in for the MVP.

    (That said and an aside - I am watching GotG3 carefully - two very interesting possibilities there with Rocket and High Evolutionary who might put up some meta potential - HEv could be a very Support type character with his powers to evolve things and well imagine a 5* Rocket)

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'm imagining a 5* Rocket.
    He meets Jane.
    It doesn't end well for him.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,479 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:
    I'm imagining a 5* Rocket.
    He meets Jane.
    It doesn't end well for him.

    Well maybe this Rocket has a passive that turns charged tiles into specials and punishes characters who destroy those specials? I mean that is basically his premise - he is a packrat who solves problems? Hmm. Hey Devs - I got an idea!

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    So you're saying you have a plan.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,479 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:
    So you're saying you have a plan.

    You are Fiya today, sir!

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bad I've never said that I defeated Chasm/iHulk with only 4*. It's a combination of 4* + 5*. Neither did I said Chasm/iHulk disappeared from pvps. I said I can hardly find Chasm/iHulk teams in the last ~6 weeks of non-boosted Chasm. I've

    1) shown multiple videos of different teams beating Chasm/iHulk.
    2) climbed to 2000 last season using 3* Marvel/Riri/mThor.
    3) posted videos of myself hitting 1200 in 18-22 wins multiple times.
    4) posted videos of my mmr opponents after crossing 1200 points

    To be clear, pvps are done in slice 1. Unfortunately, it's dead silence whenever I post videos of my mmr opponents where I skipped for about 30 seconds and Chasm/iHulk wasn't even dominating nor appearing all over pvps. On the other hand, players with PTSD from dealing with Chasm are seeing him everywhere. >:)

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'll be here all week.
    Along with the other 4 guys who still post here.
    And Beast.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    Wong is pretty good when boosted! (Shocker, I know).

    I have him at like lvl451 or something. All his damage powers do good damage, and the strike tiles he makes are pretty big. I still wouldn't ever use him unboosted, but with +100 levels he's very good.

  • Tiger_Wong
    Tiger_Wong Posts: 1,098 Chairperson of the Boards

    No. His strikes are VERY strong out the gate. Lvl 455 Wong puts out 6 strikes of 1517 on turn 1. That’s 9012 tacked on to whatever. Then, if you have Kamar-Taj equipped it tacks on 20% power to each strike. Making them all 1820. Which means…..

    • 10920 damage. On turn 1.

    Yo….. if that’s “meh” damage to you on turn 1…… unboosted….. then what exactly are you looking for? .

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    I finally get to test out my hypothesis of Wong/Electro against Chasm/iHulk. Here's the video (2.5 minutes):

    https://streamable.com/wbmj3w

    I always like to use +2 red/yellow to protect my yellow aps on the first turn. I've tried Spells of Wong in different order and I think the best spell to choose first is his protect tile spell. The second would be his protect spell if it keeps getting matched. Then, cast his strike tile spells. As you can see from the videos, his strike tiles are boosting my match damage to 10k range. Finally fire his purple and choose Rescue for three separate hits to down both for good. The match is not as fast as my other counters. However, they didn't take much damage, except for the essential. In pick-3, I would be taking much lesser damage.

    Some notes:
    1) I've gone aggressive with him but I'm took a lot of damage as well.

  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards

    so I finally had enough iso to champ wong. I had played with him a decent bit on lower level nodes and DDQ just to get a sense of his kit, and I knew that he had (post launch) come to be well regarded. But even so, I was a little surprised at just how effective his strike tiles are, even when unboosted.

    If his strikes proc'd every match how good would he be? The best 5*? Second tier behind SC and Fosthor?

    I am, yet again, learning that one trick ponies are just fine in MPQ so long as the trick is good enough.

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