What if any of these 20 buck 1 stars worth it if any

entrailbucket

Mine is level 494 and spec'd 4/5/4 (thanks again, 1* vault!).

He has 119,000 health, green does 4,673 damage per AP, red is 17,000 AoE, and yellow does 45,000 damage and hits him for 20,000.

He's probably not usable unboosted, since the costs on red and yellow are still 10. But when he's boosted he'll have a lot of health, and the (roughly doubled) damage numbers are high enough to do some work.

JoeHandle

@Zalasta said:
5* Juggs red should make a nice teamup.

Not only is it not a TU, red has essentially been nerfed on the ascended versions.

The 1* version does 50% self-dmg.

The 2* and 5* versions do a little more than 100% self-dmg at 5 covers, so a heavy incentive to settle for 4 covers ... or 3 covers and max out his green and black board destroyers.

The 3* version does 80% self-dmg at 5 red covers. So not as bad, but not great

Don't know about the 4* yet.

JoeHandle

@Domitronas said:
Is there a way to block someone so I don't see their comments?

If this was a serious question, it's in your user profile:
https://forums.d3go.com/profile/ignore

You have to manually add names ... up to 20 ... not like many forums in which the process starts by clicking on the other user's name ...

slidecage

not sure if worth it

storm
mohawk
370
266
208

storm classic
368
266
144

so not sure if buying this storm be worth it

unless im wrong probally am im pretty close to a 2 star going to 5 right

**** i need to start paying attention to what i have.. i wanted that one support.. did a 40 pack for 10k already had the freaking support.. waste of 10k

Bowgentle

It's not.
Keep buying the 1*s.

bluewolf

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

Bowgentle

@bluewolf said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

They also give 800 CP from the chain offers now.
Things have changed.

slidecage

@bluewolf said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

@bluewolf said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

Not sure why someone with 35 slots nothing bigger then a 3 star would even buy it i wouldnt even touch a 4 star at those level

I wouldn't sell it and just tell him to buy the next 5 stars if he really can't play it. At least then he would have. 3. 5 stars

did they really slow them down selling one stars Now I say if we don't see one by Friday they might had

DrClever

@slidecage said:

@bluewolf said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

@bluewolf said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

Not sure why someone with 35 slots nothing bigger then a 3 star would even buy it i wouldnt even touch a 4 star at those level

Because it was on sale, was obviously better than anything they had and nothing in the game even hints at it being a problem to do that. Possibly.

entrailbucket

@bluewolf said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

This sounds incredibly fishy. Have you ever played PvP with this sort of roster? When you've only got 2* and a few random 3*, the loaner is the best character you have. PvP between these rosters is basically loaner vs loaner, and as soon as they score points, someone with better characters will take them all away.

This player may be facing more difficult opponents now, but there's no way they were playing enough PvP before to have any frame of reference. Unless...it's not a real account/story/player...

bluewolf

@entrailbucket said:

@bluewolf said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

This sounds incredibly fishy. Have you ever played PvP with this sort of roster? When you've only got 2* and a few random 3*, the loaner is the best character you have. PvP between these rosters is basically loaner vs loaner, and as soon as they score points, someone with better characters will take them all away.

This player may be facing more difficult opponents now, but there's no way they were playing enough PvP before to have any frame of reference. Unless...it's not a real account/story/player...

Well, here is the post. https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelPuzzleQuest/s/JHWgyfmCb0

It seems real to me as their explanation is that they came back to the game and started a new account and thought they could skip the beginning grind. Obviously they didn’t have a lot of PvP experience? Maybe they are (mis)remembering what it was like years ago.

I feel like their issue is less “I’m losing points” vs “being matched against single champ 5s with 1-5 barely effective Venom sucks”.

entrailbucket

@bluewolf said:

@entrailbucket said:

@bluewolf said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:
How many points did that player have when you queued them?

If the theory is that there's some massive silent group that suddenly can't play PvP at all but refuses to complain about it in any public forum, there's no way to dispute that. But I think it's far more likely that nobody's complaining because all of these folks are just fine.

The offensive player has such a huge advantage in this game that it's possible to win almost any match. Softcappers at like lvl270 are trivially destroying CL10 PvE, vs like lvl650 opponents. I'm running 672s in many events and I lose to crazy low-level stuff all the time.

Some people want to play easymode PvP and use fully covered characters to stomp noobs, and that's fine, I guess, but punching up is possible and has always been possible. Nobody gets locked out, because harder matches are still winnable.

I don't think people are saying they cannot play pvp AT ALL. However, they make for easy targets and it has to be tough competing against OR, Colossus, mThor, etc at their new mmr. It likely does make their pve experience much better though.

A Reddit poster yesterday has 35 roster slots, a 455 1Venom5, then a 5/1/2 3Khan and some low level champed 2s.

Basically complaining that they can’t win PvP now and asking if they should sell Venom aka toss $20 out the window.

Again I think the devs should/could have set some base level to allow players to see these ascended 1-5s.

Anyway. I’m sure they liked the revenue and I’m not sure why they have paused the 1-5 offers but I still think making them less frequent is a possible strategy because we see them often shifting the value of what we can buy.

I also wonder if they are reconsidering the fact that you can gather so many resources from rostering them with relatively low cost. Old days: join a buy club, get 140 cp from $99. Today: buy 5 1-5s and gather hundreds of cp and dozens of LTs from applying 1* covers.

This sounds incredibly fishy. Have you ever played PvP with this sort of roster? When you've only got 2* and a few random 3*, the loaner is the best character you have. PvP between these rosters is basically loaner vs loaner, and as soon as they score points, someone with better characters will take them all away.

This player may be facing more difficult opponents now, but there's no way they were playing enough PvP before to have any frame of reference. Unless...it's not a real account/story/player...

Well, here is the post. https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelPuzzleQuest/s/JHWgyfmCb0

It seems real to me as their explanation is that they came back to the game and started a new account and thought they could skip the beginning grind. Obviously they didn’t have a lot of PvP experience? Maybe they are (mis)remembering what it was like years ago.

I feel like their issue is less “I’m losing points” vs “being matched against single champ 5s with 1-5 barely effective Venom sucks”.

I don't doubt that PvP is a terrible experience for this roster, especially if it's someone who's used to playing PvP with a stronger one.

The issue (and it's a big issue, I think) is that the PvP experience for new rosters is so terrible that I doubt a player like this would even notice that their matches got more difficult. New player PvP is just loaner vs loaner, like I said -- the matches are really difficult and slow, and nothing in your roster really matters. Buying a 450 wouldn't "ruin" anything, because it was pre-ruined.

Most new players exclusively play PvE, after they jump in, play some PvP events, and realize how absolutely awful the experience is. This is definitely a problem, and I do wish they could find some way to fix it (maybe run 2* feature PvP for extremely low level players?) but it's a different problem than what this player is talking about.

JoeHandle

Paused 1* offers?

They seem to drop on Fridays, IIRC, this week the offer was 2Storm. IF they are rotating through all 1s and 2s that works for me. Make a 5mo rotation.

slidecage

@JoeHandle said:
Paused 1* offers?

They seem to drop on Fridays, IIRC, this week the offer was 2Storm. IF they are rotating through all 1s and 2s that works for me. Make a 5mo rotation.

i think they did this between the 1 star juggie and 1 star vemon (2 star ares) i say we see the next one star say tue or weds (hopefully friday that is why i get paid)

im match again the same 2 .. thor and ben ahhhh

hope iron man by thur got like 14 covers going bad

dianetics

@entrailbucket said:
I don't doubt that PvP is a terrible experience for this roster, especially if it's someone who's used to playing PvP with a stronger one.

The issue (and it's a big issue, I think) is that the PvP experience for new rosters is so terrible that I doubt a player like this would even notice that their matches got more difficult. New player PvP is just loaner vs loaner, like I said -- the matches are really difficult and slow, and nothing in your roster really matters. Buying a 450 wouldn't "ruin" anything, because it was pre-ruined.

Most new players exclusively play PvE, after they jump in, play some PvP events, and realize how absolutely awful the experience is. This is definitely a problem, and I do wish they could find some way to fix it (maybe run 2* feature PvP for extremely low level players?) but it's a different problem than what this player is talking about.

This is something I have mentioned frequently and asked about in the monthly QAs because player retention is important.

New player PvP is nigh unplayable. It is slow and painful until you have a decent set of 3's on your team as long, and even then it is insufferable because the pool of active players is so small you get matched against players with 1 champed 4.

The brackets generally do not fill out so you can place high, but at the same time you will probably run into a lot of rosters much stronger than yours.

I am sure the new 3s have sort of helped out in this situation, but I haven't started a new burner account to test it yet.

It doesn't really look good until your roster has a pair of decent 4s to play.

slidecage

Hopefully something by Friday

entrailbucket

@Tony_Foot said:
Now I have multiple 550 PvP is a completely different animal.

Without doubt even with my **** 550’s it’s been easier than I was at single 550. I seem to be invisible??? I climb up to 800 or whenever I get easy seals within the first few hours. Get my 25 wins and then only really take any hits back from dual 550 players or retaliations from people I hit.

I finished the last PvP with nearly 800 despite being at that level for 2 days. It’s not like I have a big Thor either. I guess I never saw dual 550 players when I climbed before so now I’m harder to queue?

Anyway, those ascended have been worth the purchase for me and I'd do it again in a heart beat.

Dual 550s are (generally) totally invisible to everyone who doesn't have a 550 roster. I brought that up somewhere back in this thread. It's a hard break -- 549/550 doesn't get the same benefit. You get an enormous scoring advantage from that cloak of invisibility.

slidecage

@Tony_Foot said:
Now I have multiple 550 PvP is a completely different animal.

Without doubt even with my **** 550’s it’s been easier than I was at single 550. I seem to be invisible??? I climb up to 800 or whenever I get easy seals within the first few hours. Get my 25 wins and then only really take any hits back from dual 550 players or retaliations from people I hit.

I finished the last PvP with nearly 800 despite being at that level for 2 days. It’s not like I have a big Thor either. I guess I never saw dual 550 players when I climbed before so now I’m harder to queue?

Anyway, those ascended have been worth the purchase for me and I'd do it again in a heart beat.

Did. They really matter this time I think I had a 450s. Thor and Ben

Don't think I seen a single 1 5 star team. Almost every match was Ben and Thor lol. Lucky I got some. Thor Polaris or Thor chi teams and made it to 25 wins just using Ben and Thor.

Question is my math right. I have tittle over 3300 tokens I thought if I open all I would have tons of 55o. But open. 50 and was lucky to move juggie and vemon up 2 spots. I'm guessing. 3000 tokens you be lucky to get them to 550.

slidecage

@Tony_Foot said:

@slidecage said:

Question is my math right. I have tittle over 3300 tokens I thought if I open all I would have tons of 55o. But open. 50 and was lucky to move juggie and vemon up 2 spots. I'm guessing. 3000 tokens you be lucky to get them to 550.

I had 4000. I just about got Juggs and Spidey to 550 from 450ish. Venom was 450 to 548. I don't see you getting them done with 3000 standards. In 6 years when I've saved another 4k I will buy some more 1*'s!

That is why I'm thinking of waiting and opening up anymore till I get all of the ones I want to buy ... They will still get some coverd doing pvp and others but I think until I buy the rest I want mostly no reason in opening them.

Though I do wonder i think if you did get it to 450 to 550 you make 20k hp.

I wonder if you did that and started out fresh with all new 1. What those 3000. Tokens would bring up wise ( now there is some math. None want to attempt lol 😂

bluewolf

@slidecage said:

@Tony_Foot said:

@slidecage said:

Question is my math right. I have tittle over 3300 tokens I thought if I open all I would have tons of 55o. But open. 50 and was lucky to move juggie and vemon up 2 spots. I'm guessing. 3000 tokens you be lucky to get them to 550.

I had 4000. I just about got Juggs and Spidey to 550 from 450ish. Venom was 450 to 548. I don't see you getting them done with 3000 standards. In 6 years when I've saved another 4k I will buy some more 1*'s!

That is why I'm thinking of waiting and opening up anymore till I get all of the ones I want to buy ... They will still get some coverd doing pvp and others but I think until I buy the rest I want mostly no reason in opening them.

Though I do wonder i think if you did get it to 450 to 550 you make 20k hp.

I wonder if you did that and started out fresh with all new 1. What those 3000. Tokens would bring up wise ( now there is some math. None want to attempt lol 😂

I just looked at the sub rewards for SCL 10 again and realized if you can place between 401-500 you get THREE of those oh-so-sweet Standard tokens! On top of the 6 you can get from node rewards that's 9 a day! You just need to figure out how to grind just enough to not do too well because it seems like once you're out of T100, especially 200, a whole bunch of people are barely playing the event at all.