Ascended Winners and Losers

dramatist

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I really like the crit spam you get from Iron Patriot even though mine is still a 2*. I'm looking at my roster, and I seem to have 3 3* Juggernauts with one at 265, and a fourth at just 5 black covers somehow. I guess I was just getting the 1,000hp pre-ascended offers when they'd show up? I also seem to have a pair of 3* venoms, a 3* original spider-man at 266 anda 2* at 120, a 266 classic hawkeye with a partially built dupe...these guys level up relatively quickly even just from organic F2P cover aquisition. I feel like it's worth it to do so.

I got the 4* Iron Patriot from the vault when he was released and his purple dropped to 9 AP. 9 AP for 5 critical tiles is pretty nice.

DAZ0273

Is 4* Deadpool a winner or loser? I am sitting on 17 saved covers on my dupe and just wondering what to do. I could ascend him no matter what but I suspect X-Enforcer might take a hit?

BriMan2222

XF dp is great when boosted and ascended. I usually use the power stone on him for the chance to fire a power for free and gain extra purple. Yeah, his black doesn't do much, but you can spam his purple and pair him with someone to destroy his tiles.

Last time he was boosted I used TA hulk with him who was also boosted. The time before that I paired him with mthor.

entrailbucket

@DAZ0273 said:
Is 4* Deadpool a winner or loser? I am sitting on 17 saved covers on my dupe and just wondering what to do. I could ascend him no matter what but I suspect X-Enforcer might take a hit?

He turns into a different character, basically. His passive stops being useful but his purple gets really good. Red is too -- it's just too expensive to use much.

DAZ0273

Thanks Mateys.

bluewolf

I ascended 4DP early for one of his boost weeks when my 5 options were poor.

No regerts. I pull him out when boosted sometimes or to run against Mthor teams and laugh as she damages herself after his CD for Whats are out.

ThaRoadWarrior

I can tell you guys that ascended 4* juggernaut and 1* spider-man as a 5* are doing pretty well this boost week. Ascended Sabretooth has been fun to use against the people bringing chewie or Polaris into the match.

entrailbucket

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I can tell you guys that ascended 4* juggernaut and 1* spider-man as a 5* are doing pretty well this boost week. Ascended Sabretooth has been fun to use against the people bringing chewie or Polaris into the match.

672 Ares + omnipotence city + Atlantis on the essential means I get to hit you for like 300k+ turn0.

I've found that the best way to deal with Juggernaut this week is to kill him before the enemy gets a turn!

ThaRoadWarrior

In the absence of that, electro + FA Cap (boosted) isn’t the worst option.

ThaRoadWarrior

Here is what Domino looks like. Reduce that green by 84, and the crit multiplier by 0.8 because I forgot I had the 3* green infinity gem equipped to her. Also she is still eligible for the 4* node in DDQ along with Nightcrawler and X Force Wolverine so you can field a 5* team there if you want.

rainkingucd

An alliance mate shared 3* Arcade ( @ThaRoadWarrior I think you said before you were curious or thinking about targeting him):

ThaRoadWarrior

This is 5*?

Pantera236

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
This is 5*?

Zoom in to see.

rainkingucd

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
This is 5*?

sorry, yes. This is 3a5 Arcade.

ThaRoadWarrior

Right on. Thanks!

entrailbucket

Pulled the 270 from the vault today and and immediately ascended him -- lvl450 unboosted. These numbers will go crazy (not on red, though?).

JoeHandle

@entrailbucket said:
Pulled the 270 from the vault today and and immediately ascended him -- lvl450 unboosted. These numbers will go crazy (not on red, though?).

Presumably they will increase by the usual ratios, and yeah those look pretty good.

Does he have the usual "ascended to 5*" health and match dmg?

ThaRoadWarrior

@rainkingucd said:
An alliance mate shared 3* Arcade ( @ThaRoadWarrior I think you said before you were curious or thinking about targeting him):

Was he boosted, or super high level? That is 100% better than my 464 5* Arcade:

Murderworld:
same effects, but 5* does 2,713/trap compared to the 3* at 7,495

Insert Coin:
5* - 2,713/coin vs 7,495
Flame burst: 2,713 vs 7,495
Poison Cloud: 10,186/black & purple trap removed team damage, 5,094 damage if CD destroyed vs 28,046/black & purple, 14,022 if destroyed

Happy Birthday:
1 turn fortified repeater doing 8149 damage + 2 murderworld traps, then each turn if there are at least 8 murderworld traps on the board, destroy one doing 5769 team damage and 1874 allied damage vs 22,484/9274/2664 respectively.

Happy birthday in particular is wildly superior, but he is just absolutely better across the board. That's crazy. I happen to have a 4* arcade who is level 316 and whom I've never even looked at the numbers on, and those numbers are:
Murderworld: 2226/tile
Insert Coin: 2,226/tile
Flame burst: 2,226 x red and yellow tiles removed
Poison Cloud: 8329 x black and purple traps removed/4,162 team damage fi destroyed
Happy Birthday: 6,674/2768/790

So even as a 4* he is better on powers, though his health and match are way down compared to any 5*. I guess file Arcade under "winners" to the degree anyone wants to run him.

entrailbucket

@JoeHandle said:

@entrailbucket said:
Pulled the 270 from the vault today and and immediately ascended him -- lvl450 unboosted. These numbers will go crazy (not on red, though?).

Presumably they will increase by the usual ratios, and yeah those look pretty good.

Does he have the usual "ascended to 5*" health and match dmg?

He's got 72,645 health and his match damage is 1003/891/780 (I don't know what the usual is!).

WhiteBomber

@ThaRoadWarrior said:

@rainkingucd said:
An alliance mate shared 3* Arcade ( @ThaRoadWarrior I think you said before you were curious or thinking about targeting him):

Was he boosted, or super high level? That is 100% better than my 464 5* Arcade:

Murderworld:
same effects, but 5* does 2,713/trap compared to the 3* at 7,495

Insert Coin:
5* - 2,713/coin vs 7,495
Flame burst: 2,713 vs 7,495
Poison Cloud: 10,186/black & purple trap removed team damage, 5,094 damage if CD destroyed vs 28,046/black & purple, 14,022 if destroyed

Happy Birthday:
1 turn fortified repeater doing 8149 damage + 2 murderworld traps, then each turn if there are at least 8 murderworld traps on the board, destroy one doing 5769 team damage and 1874 allied damage vs 22,484/9274/2664 respectively.

Happy birthday in particular is wildly superior, but he is just absolutely better across the board. That's crazy. I happen to have a 4* arcade who is level 316 and whom I've never even looked at the numbers on, and those numbers are:
Murderworld: 2226/tile
Insert Coin: 2,226/tile
Flame burst: 2,226 x red and yellow tiles removed
Poison Cloud: 8329 x black and purple traps removed/4,162 team damage fi destroyed
Happy Birthday: 6,674/2768/790

So even as a 4* he is better on powers, though his health and match are way down compared to any 5*. I guess file Arcade under "winners" to the degree anyone wants to run him.

I checked the first commander in Variants of Time a while back, they have both Arcades at 550 so they are right next to each other. If I am remembering correctly, they weren't even close, the 3star was way better (like more than double the damage on some abilities I think). I considered favoriting him, but HoneyB is just so fun.