Ascended Winners and Losers

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  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 647 Critical Contributor
    edited 7 May 2025, 17:40

    @Bustapup said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    I wasn't going to type and share this one, but I had to type it out just to compare the numbers and figure things out, so here ya go. The bottom copy of info is the 5star numbers, if there is no copy, there is no change:

    Betsy B 4-5

    Level 370 - 457
    Health: 28,659 - 76,672

    Red:

    • 4AP: Match = +1AP and 120% per mut or exc
    • 4AP: Match = +1AP and 80% per mut or exc
    • Passive: Every 3AP in strongest increase her match by 130% (max 780) and ability by 75% (max 450)
    • Passive: Every 3AP in strongest increase her match by 80% (max 480) and ability by 25% (max 150)

    Yella:

    • 5AP: 3 turn CD deals damage total protect tiles per hit
    • Passive: Create 1009 protect up to number of muts
    • Passive: Create 2254 protect up to number of muts

    Pink:

    • 8AP: Improve protects by 635 for each Excali then damage team for total protect strength
    • 8AP: Improve protects by 1128 for each Excali then damage team for total protect strength
    • Passive: Protects +100% while in front

    There are a couple teams where she makes an amazing support (and the protects come from elsewhere), that I could see leaving her at 4 since her ability increase drops by 300% (why??) causing her Pink so suffer greatly. See: Magik4, MultiMan, Nico, Spidermay etc.

    However (Bucket)! Most of the time you want her to tank to get the protect increase, plus the health and match damage increase so worth the ascension, I just don't know about chasing her over others (if you have top tiers to ascend still).

    I still very much like this character, wish they didn't nerf her percentages so much, but still coo.

    I'm torn. I use her a lot and she is good to counter omega teams with kitty and Colossus but she's too squishy.....do I want to make her more survivable and lose that massive damage bonus? 😵‍💫

    If you are using her in PVP there is almost no way you would leave her at 4.

    I only see 2 reasons to leave her at 4: You have other 4 stars you want to ascend first, or you are only using her on an offensive team that easily dumps out big protects and nets a decent amount of pink AP. I'm working on Blob and then Northstar, after them, I personally will likely be prioritizing her.

    If you have Magik4, MultiMan4, Beast4, VenomApril3 ascended, they are super hott for Betsy. VenomApril gets very good at 5, as an FYI for this thread.

    That being said, there are easier / healthier ways to destroy Red. If she just started the match with her first protect tile, it would honestly make her quite a bit better.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 647 Critical Contributor

    Also, since HoneyBadger is so hott right now, my prediction is that Mephisto3 will ascend better than his 5 star variant. Pair him with Badger and watch the magic happen. So fun, and an excellent defensive team that punishes AP gain. It's a damn shame it takes average players years to get 3stars up.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 687 Critical Contributor

    ......... What does "hott" mean?

    Yes, I'm old.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 647 Critical Contributor

    @Blackstone said:
    ......... What does "hott" mean?

    Yes, I'm old.

    It shares the same slang definition as "hot", but with an extra T to really sell it. As for "hot", it basically means "desirable", "sexy", "preferable", "in / relevant".

    Below are some pictures to illustrate:

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,527 Chairperson of the Boards

    If you like Prowler (and you should!) here's another fun one to ascend (base lvl491, boosted to lvl611):

    Sadly she can't equip Tinkerer herself but I'm sure you can find someone who can!

  • Mxm23
    Mxm23 Posts: 1 Just Dropped In

    Is there a database or website where I can see the stats and powers of ascended characters?
    Could someone tell me if there are any changes to the powers of the ascended Juggernaut (fear itself)?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,881 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Mxm23 said:
    Is there a database or website where I can see the stats and powers of ascended characters?
    Could someone tell me if there are any changes to the powers of the ascended Juggernaut (fear itself)?

    Yes he becomes even more awesome! Not sure about his blue, nobody ever uses him for hammer time.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,900 Chairperson of the Boards

    Breaker costs 11.

    At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

    At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

    At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

    I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,761 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Borstock said:
    Breaker costs 11.

    At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

    At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

    At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

    I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

    The blue is a thing?

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,508 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:

    @Borstock said:
    Breaker costs 11.

    At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

    At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

    At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

    I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

    The blue is a thing?

    Yes but it only works when he blues himself

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,900 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:

    @Borstock said:
    Breaker costs 11.

    At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

    At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

    At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

    I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

    The blue is a thing?

    There's some shenanigans to be had when you can shake shake shake dat board.

  • StillMonsoon3
    StillMonsoon3 Posts: 90 Match Maker

    @rainkingucd said:

    @dianetics said:

    @Borstock said:
    Breaker costs 11.

    At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

    At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

    At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

    I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

    The blue is a thing?

    Yes but it only works when he blues himself

    I always enjoy references to the world's first Analyst/Therapist....(If you know, you know).

  • kuntilanak
    kuntilanak Posts: 97 Match Maker

    @Borstock said:
    Breaker costs 11.

    At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

    At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

    At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

    I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

    Crazy board shake only occurs when the AI uses it, or any similar powers/ characters for that matter...

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,541 Chairperson of the Boards

    I use my ascended juggernaut (5* power stone) with ascended rocket (pizza dog support) and ascended Polaris (low level ai) for easy mode clearing all of SC10 PVE. He is one of the most ascendable characters if you’re on the fence about it.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,527 Chairperson of the Boards

    Daredevil @450 no boost:




  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,077 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    I use my ascended juggernaut (5* power stone) with ascended rocket (pizza dog support) and ascended Polaris (low level ai) for easy mode clearing all of SC10 PVE. He is one of the most ascendable characters if you’re on the fence about it.

    If you had to ascend one single 4 and couldn’t ascend any other one, Juggs would be the one. Especially now with Sam but even without him you can blast through most pve pick 3 content using 3-4 may, Jugg and 3 Namor faster than most other teams most weeks.

  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,231 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 22 May 2025, 03:24

    3a5 Nova (Richard Rider) lv450

    RED: 6 AP
    3 covers: 9795 damage. If Worldmind tile exists, 6053 enemy team damage & create 2 x 267 Attack tiles
    4 covers: 10680 damage. If Worldmind tile exists, 6766 enemy team damage & create 2 x 445 Attack tiles
    5 covers: 14242 damage. If Worldmind tile exists, 8902 enemy team damage & create 2 x 490 Attack tiles

    YELLOW: 5 AP
    3 covers: Create 3 x 401 Protect tiles. If Worldmind tile exists, increase Protect tiles by 20% & heal team for 5698
    4 covers: Create 3 x 446 Protect tiles. If Worldmind tile exists, increase Protect tiles by 25% & heal team for 6052
    5 covers: Create 4 x 490 Protect tiles. If Worldmind tile exists, increase Protect tiles by 40% & heal team for 6411

    BLACK: 4 AP
    3 covers: 3-turn Worldmind tile that increases Nova's damage by 60%. When tile expires or is destroyed, Nova gains a burst of 3560 health
    4 covers: 4-turn Worldmind tile that increases Nova's damage by 70%. When tile expires or is destroyed, Nova gains a burst of 3918 health
    5 covers: 4-turn Worldmind tile that increases Nova's damage by 90%. When tile expires or is destroyed, Nova gains a burst of 4274 health

    Same as the base 3* : you need 4 Black AP in addition to Red and Yellow to get the most out of him. If his Worldmind tile generated Black AP upon expiry or destruction he'd be much better; as it is, 5* Nova is overall still better as he can proc his Nova Corps countdowns passively, has useful passives, and has much more synergy with the usual Countdown people like Hawkeye, Coulson, Kang, Hobgoblin

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