Ascended Winners and Losers
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Yowch, you're really not joking there.
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@entrailbucket said:
@Timemachinego said:
@entrailbucket said:
Hey, don't overlook the fact that you get a strength 4500 protect tile every single turn for free (if he's boosted it'll be almost 10k, too).I have a feeling Luke Cage is going to start showing up on those lists of "best guys to ascend" now -- I want royalties!
Hey, maybe I can go back to running luke cage, iron fist and doc strange like I did when I didn't have anything better! Progress!
Unfortunately Luke Cage got all the numbers in the Heroes for Hire partnership. Iron Fist is not very good.
Lvl452, unboosted:
Sadly that damage on Iron Fist of K'un-Lun is better than Echo's version (456 unboosted):
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Just in case anybody forgot about him (lvl606, boosted stats):
If you have lvl5 Tinkerer you only need 1 black AP.
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@entrailbucket said:
Just in case anybody forgot about him (lvl606, boosted stats):If you have lvl5 Tinkerer you only need 1 black AP.
This week I'm running 672 1a5 Juggs and a 468 pre boost Prowler with implanted bomb on Juggs and Tinkerer on Prowler. I take +2 all and + 2 red green and black. I'm starting the match with 10 black so fire Prowler for 60k in strikes, make one black match and bomb gives you 1 more black ap (not sure if always but seemed to be) so can fire black again for 60k more strikes. Oh and Tinkerer hits for like 5k + strikes every time you match a fortified enemy tile. It gets pretty crazy.
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@Pantera236 said:
@entrailbucket said:
Just in case anybody forgot about him (lvl606, boosted stats):If you have lvl5 Tinkerer you only need 1 black AP.
This week I'm running 672 1a5 Juggs and a 468 pre boost Prowler with implanted bomb on Juggs and Tinkerer on Prowler. I take +2 all and + 2 red green and black. I'm starting the match with 10 black so fire Prowler for 60k in strikes, make one black match and bomb gives you 1 more black ap (not sure if always but seemed to be) so can fire black again for 60k more strikes. Oh and Tinkerer hits for like 5k + strikes every time you match a fortified enemy tile. It gets pretty crazy.
I'm using 4* Hawkeye (Ronin) with the arrow support, and the other character will have Pizza Dog. Getting free attack tiles and sometimes tripling Prowler's strikes is nuts.
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Iron fist gives ascended cage all that black he needs for jab jab though - that power really seemed to come alive
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@ThaRoadWarrior said:
Iron fist gives ascended cage all that black he needs for jab jab though - that power really seemed to come aliveI know they won't tell us the specifics, but I wish there was at least some rule of thumb we could use to see which characters or powers get good. It's just very inconsistent.
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Naturally, I have 3Fist much farther along then 3Cage
Always used him for spamming black anyway.Reminder that 3Cage makes ONE protect tile, and replaces it if destroyed. Somewhere up there it was said he makes a tile every turn. If it's missing, sure he does. Only if it's not present at start of his tuen, tho.
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Has anyone gotten 3 star Black Widow to 5 star yet? If so, does the purple still cost 11 to make 6 green? What is the green damage? Thanks.
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@captainheath said:
Has anyone gotten 3 star Black Widow to 5 star yet? If so, does the purple still cost 11 to make 6 green? What is the green damage? Thanks.I don't have her and haven't seen her yet.
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I honesty can’t imagine it’s worth focusing on 3BW as we really haven’t seen a single case that I’m aware of where ap costs dropped for a 3-5.
She seems like a permanent reward engine at this point in the game. An antiquated design there’s no point in updating.
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@bluewolf said:
I honesty can’t imagine it’s worth focusing on 3BW as we really haven’t seen a single case that I’m aware of where ap costs dropped for a 3-5.She seems like a permanent reward engine at this point in the game. An antiquated design there’s no point in updating.
I can't remember if anybody's AP costs drop.
The bigger problem with her is that I'm not sure how far you could realistically drop that power before it becomes a problem.
Yeah, I know Shang-Chi exists, but the GSBW power is actually quite a bit better in terms of infinite...ness. it's similar to the old 2* Magneto power (the original Winfinite) that they ended up having to nerf.
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If you’re in a position to ascend 3BW to a 5, you’ve probably got numerous winfinite teams you could run already.
I don’t think they’d drop the cost but sure. You could use a cheaper power to just spam yourself to a win on offense.
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@entrailbucket said:
@bluewolf said:
I honesty can’t imagine it’s worth focusing on 3BW as we really haven’t seen a single case that I’m aware of where ap costs dropped for a 3-5.She seems like a permanent reward engine at this point in the game. An antiquated design there’s no point in updating.
I can't remember if anybody's AP costs drop.
1* Yelena's Black and Hood Yellow drop in AP cost when ascended
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@bluewolf said:
If you’re in a position to ascend 3BW to a 5, you’ve probably got numerous winfinite teams you could run already.I don’t think they’d drop the cost but sure. You could use a cheaper power to just spam yourself to a win on offense.
I'm not sure. Given enough time, everyone will ascend the 3s to 5s. Sure, it takes a lot of resources right now, but people used to say that about 550ing 5*, and now every single player gets a 550 m'Thor just for signing up (I think).
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My best is still 487 Profe$$or X….
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At 4* black widow’s power costs are still laughably high. Mine is at 282. What’s funny is that her green cost goes up every level you put on it - costs 15 at one cover up to 19 at 5 covers. Same with red, starts at 12 at one cover up to 17 at five, and purple just costs 11 all the time. I never noticed that before.
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@ThaRoadWarrior said:
At 4* black widow’s power costs are still laughably high. Mine is at 282. What’s funny is that her green cost goes up every level you put on it - costs 15 at one cover up to 19 at 5 covers. Same with red, starts at 12 at one cover up to 17 at five, and purple just costs 11 all the time. I never noticed that before.She's really, really old -- they used to mess with AP costs a lot. I think OBW has something similar. There were a few guys who got AP discounts the more covers they had, too.
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@entrailbucket said:
@ThaRoadWarrior said:
At 4* black widow’s power costs are still laughably high. Mine is at 282. What’s funny is that her green cost goes up every level you put on it - costs 15 at one cover up to 19 at 5 covers. Same with red, starts at 12 at one cover up to 17 at five, and purple just costs 11 all the time. I never noticed that before.She's really, really old -- they used to mess with AP costs a lot. I think OBW has something similar. There were a few guys who got AP discounts the more covers they had, too.
1juggs still does.
GSBW is a top 3* to ascend, from my perspective. She feeds terrible characters, has a useful kit, and would very much benefit from a larger health pool. No reason not to ascend her!
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Since Threshold based characters are rarely winners, I present to you Eddie Brock Venom:
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