New boss battle rewards?

Punisher5784

I agree the alliance rewards were lacking since you're playing an entire event without any additional progression awards. My alliance could have made T50 but am extra 25 5* shards is pointless.

The alliance placement is already tracked in Demaster, so why did we need a separate event? The best part of Boss events is that it's a relaxing period at the end of the season. Now it's grind two boss events.

At the very least they could have also done Player Placement too so at least the players themselves got a bit more rewards for their efforts.

Also... Boosts and health packs as an award? They could have just done a progression of just these items.

Punisher5784

@DAZ0273 said:

@Punisher5784 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Sloshed said:

@entrailbucket said:
Why would you want to give up your spot to someone from outside your alliance? You're on the team, they're not!

because it's not just one alliance, it's a family of alliances

What's stopping someone from creating an "alliance family" of 1000 players and shuffling them all around every event? Why not just merge every single alliance in the top 100 and call that a "family?"

You think it's that easy to just merge alliances? When my alliance tried to grow years ago it was a huge challenge trying to maintain the second one. It almost became a second job. It takes a lot of dedication to build and maintain these family alliances.

My alliance is also part of KA. It sounds like you want to join a family of your own.

You make it sound like you are all Mafia Crime syndicates... "Da family grows but we don't talk to strangers, capeesh?"

Hahaha.. I'm not involved in the Alliance stuff anymore. My Commanding days ended when I last retired. I also was retired when my alliance got acquired so I don't know the negotiations lol.

I'm just happy that it's less stressful being apart of a alliance family. It made it easier for the Commanders who are building their real families outside the game. That's the important part

Btw, I don't know anyone with the alliance family that doesn't talk to "strangers". I still maintain my relationships with others outside the alliance.

StanleyBurrell

@Sloshed said:

@StanleyBurrell said:
I would truly like to see how the T25 would change if people were locked in for every event. Would be fun.

Prime didn't change anyone from the beginning. We were the same 20 players throughout the whole thing - KA Jedi also, and I think it was the same for all of the KA alliances.

I'm not happy that you could swap players, it should have been properly locked in from the get go - I wouldn't want this treated like a typical PvE

I am talking about every single PvE event.

arejaygee

I lived through a couple of alliance mergers & it’s tough. It requires a lot of cooperation & communication ahead of time & after. Running & coordinating a family is a lot of work—I don’t regret retiring when I did & moving on to single alliance life.

Punter1

I am in a top 25 Alliance - therefore I enjoyed this! Is it that simple?

Overall like the idea, though the event needs the rewards tweaking as others said.
25th - 1075 5* Shards equivalent
26th - 50 5* Shards - that's a big drop and would suck to be the 26th alliance.

As with other stuff, they should be communicating it better beforehand. Sell it as the bonus rewards that it is and gives us a bit better expectation going in.

We did communicate way more during this boss than regular ones, and that added to the fun and game engagement. Small changes like that are what bring in some freshness after nearly 10 years of playing.

DAZ0273

@Punter1 said:
I am in a top 25 Alliance - therefore I enjoyed this! Is it that simple?

Devs be:

Would you like some extra steak to go with your steak? Refill that Champagne glass, it is only 3/4 full!

entrailbucket

@Punisher5784 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Sloshed said:

@entrailbucket said:
Why would you want to give up your spot to someone from outside your alliance? You're on the team, they're not!

because it's not just one alliance, it's a family of alliances

What's stopping someone from creating an "alliance family" of 1000 players and shuffling them all around every event? Why not just merge every single alliance in the top 100 and call that a "family?"

You think it's that easy to just merge alliances? When my alliance tried to grow years ago it was a huge challenge trying to maintain the second one. It almost became a second job. It takes a lot of dedication to build and maintain these family alliances.

My alliance is also part of KA. It sounds like you want to join a family of your own.

So, no. I'm happy where I'm at, even though we're nowhere close to competitive anymore.

What's funny is that you pointed out how difficult it'd be to merge that many alliances, not how ridiculous it'd be for the top 2000 players to just declare that they were all on the same team now.

I'd also point out that the vast majority of this discussion involves talk of how much "work" it is, and business terms like mergers and acquisitions, yet no discussion of, y'know, FUN, and camaraderie.

DAZ0273

Do KA have an active Alliance in every single time slice?

chris0001

All I gotta say is this game has gone the way of life! “The rich get richer and the rest are forgotten about”. This boss event proves it!

Punisher5784

@entrailbucket said:

@Punisher5784 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Sloshed said:

@entrailbucket said:
Why would you want to give up your spot to someone from outside your alliance? You're on the team, they're not!

because it's not just one alliance, it's a family of alliances

What's stopping someone from creating an "alliance family" of 1000 players and shuffling them all around every event? Why not just merge every single alliance in the top 100 and call that a "family?"

You think it's that easy to just merge alliances? When my alliance tried to grow years ago it was a huge challenge trying to maintain the second one. It almost became a second job. It takes a lot of dedication to build and maintain these family alliances.

My alliance is also part of KA. It sounds like you want to join a family of your own.

So, no. I'm happy where I'm at, even though we're nowhere close to competitive anymore.

What's funny is that you pointed out how difficult it'd be to merge that many alliances, not how ridiculous it'd be for the top 2000 players to just declare that they were all on the same team now.

I'd also point out that the vast majority of this discussion involves talk of how much "work" it is, and business terms like mergers and acquisitions, yet no discussion of, y'know, FUN, and camaraderie.

Prior to my retirement we were already a T50-100 PvE/PvP alliance so nothing has changed, other than it's easier to manage now. The core members of our team are still here.

I never said we don't have fun, I just pointed out that we don't talk as much as we used to because we're all married and have become parents since we started our alliance. We're just busy adulting! Many of us keep chugging along because of the alliance and we care about one another.

What is the reason for all this complaining? If your alliance isn't hitting T100 on regular PvE then there was no point in playing Remaster. That's why the Devs said it's Optional. I don't agree with their approach but be mad at them, not the alliances

TheXMan

@DAZ0273 said:
I really don't see the need for rewards to drop off that cliff and plunge so far down the side like that. Honestly if the Devs want to reward the big Alliances then why not put them in a category of their own and have a lower tier for the rest of the Alliances with something a bit more worthwhile to play for.

Maybe add in CLs?

Bowgentle

@DAZ0273 said:
Do KA have an active Alliance in every single time slice?

They have roughly 67 alliances total, so yes.

DAZ0273

@TheXMan said:

@DAZ0273 said:
I really don't see the need for rewards to drop off that cliff and plunge so far down the side like that. Honestly if the Devs want to reward the big Alliances then why not put them in a category of their own and have a lower tier for the rest of the Alliances with something a bit more worthwhile to play for.

Maybe add in CLs?

I guess they would need to figure out how to match that with Alliance strength rather than individual player strength.

Punisher5784

@TheXMan said:

@DAZ0273 said:
I really don't see the need for rewards to drop off that cliff and plunge so far down the side like that. Honestly if the Devs want to reward the big Alliances then why not put them in a category of their own and have a lower tier for the rest of the Alliances with something a bit more worthwhile to play for.

Maybe add in CLs?

I was thinking about that to, like Alliance Shield Clearance Level, but idk how that would even work.

DAZ0273

@Bowgentle said:

@DAZ0273 said:
Do KA have an active Alliance in every single time slice?

They have roughly 67 alliances total, so yes.

Yikes. I have to assume they are at different levels of competition and not simply 1300 of the best players??!?!?! Coz that would be quite insane!

Punisher5784

@DAZ0273 said:

@Bowgentle said:

@DAZ0273 said:
Do KA have an active Alliance in every single time slice?

They have roughly 67 alliances total, so yes.

Yikes. I have to assume they are at different levels of competition and not simply 1300 of the best players??!?!?! Coz that would be quite insane!

No. Not all the Alliances of any family are T100, not everyone can be T100. When I returned from retirement, I had to rebuild my roster, so I was able to go to a T200-300 alliance. Then when I was able to at least roster every character I went back to my old alliance, but honestly, this is no different than rather we're in a "family" or not.

There are also Retirement Alliances so you have a place to be while you're not competitive, which I like that option.

DAZ0273

It all sounds so cosy! Do you guys get health insurance plans and like dental? I am going to have to have some serious talks with my Co-Commander because we do NOT have a retirement option!

Bowgentle

KA is using Org Charts to keep track of all their teams.

entrailbucket

These top alliances tend to have very high requirements for level of play, which lead to frequent burnout and tons of players quitting. You need a constant stream of new players if you want to stay competitive -- hence the "acquisitions."

Bowgentle

Join Dorm.
We're lazy.