The Guardians Have Taken Over

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  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    No need for sarc... Oh forgot who I'm talking to 🤣
    Well it was a weekend of mindless grinding for me while watching sports, time that was unproductive to start with.
    So the answer will be different for different people.
    I don't think it took me 13 hours?
    But there should have been a complete list of quests and rewards posted, to let people make informed decisions on whether to work on this or not.
    Going in with no knowledge of later tiers is not how you roll this out.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,846 Chairperson of the Boards

    I wasn't being sarcastic. Really! It seems like different folks have different complaints about this, and I was trying to nail down what the actual problem was, since it seems to be a problem. I still think it's fine, honestly.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,482 Chairperson of the Boards

    If you need iso, then you need to do this.
    If you want to finish this your best bet is before Puzzle gauntlet finishes.
    If you don’t finish this now you will get boned

  • Zarqa
    Zarqa Posts: 456 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket You frequently argue here that the developers don't design for the 'top 5%', which is mostly the frequent forum posters here and on discord. We here aren't a representative bunch so to speak.

    However, these Tiered quests feel exactly tailored to the top % of players to me. It requires time (>13 hours!), knowledge of what characters might be most useful to complete a quest, required characters across all tiers, a relatively broad roster to make it easier, plenty of health packs, etc, etc.

    I'm curious if this event has changed your opinion somewhat on whether we're on the radar of the Devs in their design. Genuine question, not being sarcastic here.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,846 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'd argue that this is exactly the sort of low-effort (for them) stuff they should have been doing all along for the crazy grinders, if they cared even a little. I doubt anyone over there spent more than a few minutes thinking this up (as evidenced by the fairly thrown-together nature of it), and the structure for implementing it already existed, so there wasn't any real work to do.

    If they spent months implementing a new feature just for this, and painstakingly laid out complicated quests for it, with events designed for it, that were targeted at the top 5%? Sure, then you've got a case. As it stands, stuff like this seems like the bare minimum of effort they could spend to acknowledge these players' existence. It's not nothing, but I'm not willing to say it represents any real change in strategy just yet.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,657 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    @Bowgentle said:
    There's a million iso in there, though, not just 100K.
    That's about a month of play.

    Point taken. But they often run 10x sales on ISO too where you can get 900K ISO for 99 bucks. I never hear anyone saying they are buying it (I assume someone does though) even though it saves a month of grinding which is probably on the order of 60 hrs (2 hrs a day x 30 days).

    Especially when I suspect most of the people grinding for this ISO are just using it to level up someone like Green Goblin who they will never use or some forgotten 4* they are just farming for rewards.

    KGB

  • gamecat235
    gamecat235 Posts: 119 Tile Toppler
    edited May 2023

    @KGB said:

    @Bowgentle said:
    There's a million iso in there, though, not just 100K.
    That's about a month of play.

    Point taken. But they often run 10x sales on ISO too where you can get 900K ISO for 99 bucks. I never hear anyone saying they are buying it (I assume someone does though) even though it saves a month of grinding which is probably on the order of 60 hrs (2 hrs a day x 30 days).

    Especially when I suspect most of the people grinding for this ISO are just using it to level up someone like Green Goblin who they will never use or some forgotten 4* they are just farming for rewards.

    KGB

    I’m grinding to champ my 5* Magik and 5* Hawkeye.

    I already blew all of my iso champing literally every 4*. =p

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,981 Chairperson of the Boards

    Well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't worth it, but I finally finished. My final two rewards (vault token, CL token) ended up being 4* champ levels. A bit anti-climactic considering the effort. One boss event is better than that.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I got the 5* shards from my last vault token, which kinda felt appropriate for the effort.

  • stef_focus
    stef_focus Posts: 154 Tile Toppler

    I can't complain too hard. From the 3 vault tokens so far I got a Adam Warlock, Starlord 5*, and a Yondu.
    Anybody have an easy/reliable way to do the last tier 4 quest?

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    @stef_focus said:
    I can't complain too hard. From the 3 vault tokens so far I got a Adam Warlock, Starlord 5*, and a Yondu.
    Anybody have an easy/reliable way to do the last tier 4 quest?

    Doing 6 million damage?
    Just play. It's not restricted at all.

  • ArchusMonk
    ArchusMonk Posts: 236 Tile Toppler

    @Xception81 said:
    Just so we have a list… Tier 4 currently has 17 quests (and maybe an extra one at the end like prior tiers):

    -Fire 5AWarlock’s purple 50 times
    -Complete 40 missions
    -Fire 5Gamora’s black 50 times
    -Fire 5StarLord’s green 50 times
    -Make 100 red matches (similar to prior tiers, these color ones happen 1 at a time)
    -Make 100 blue matches
    -Make 100 green matches
    -Make 100 yellow matches
    -Make 100 black matches
    -Make 100 purple matches
    -Make 100 TU matches
    -Make 400 matches
    -Use 10 Boosts
    -Play 35 PvPs
    -Use 25 TUs (this isn’t an extra. Actually part of the 17, but it does stack with the quests from tiers 2 and 3, so wait to do those until you have all 3 tiers showing and then only waste 25 TUs, instead of doing them each separately).
    -Give 10 TeamUps to alliance
    -Deal 6M damage (used to be “to GOTG character” but I believe there was a fix that any character now works).

    (Edited to add 12-17)

    @Xception81 said:
    Just so we have a list… Tier 4 currently has 17 quests (and maybe an extra one at the end like prior tiers):

    -Fire 5AWarlock’s purple 50 times
    -Complete 40 missions
    -Fire 5Gamora’s black 50 times
    -Fire 5StarLord’s green 50 times
    -Make 100 red matches (similar to prior tiers, these color ones happen 1 at a time)
    -Make 100 blue matches
    -Make 100 green matches
    -Make 100 yellow matches
    -Make 100 black matches
    -Make 100 purple matches
    -Make 100 TU matches
    -Make 400 matches
    -Use 10 Boosts
    -Play 35 PvPs
    -Use 25 TUs (this isn’t an extra. Actually part of the 17, but it does stack with the quests from tiers 2 and 3, so wait to do those until you have all 3 tiers showing and then only waste 25 TUs, instead of doing them each separately).
    -Give 10 TeamUps to alliance
    -Deal 6M damage (used to be “to GOTG character” but I believe there was a fix that any character now works).

    (Edited to add 12-17)

    You happen to have a list of Tier 3? Not the initial tasks which someone else already listed but the final 4 that come later? I’m on the initial batch of t3 and curious what awaits.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:
    Was is changed? Someone reported that it was damage restricted to GotG characters.

    It was changed yesterday with the DP.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,329 Chairperson of the Boards

    25 versus missions with Guardians, thanks a lot Devs. Guess I will be retreating a lot.

  • Wolvie171
    Wolvie171 Posts: 212 Tile Toppler

    @DAZ0273 said:
    25 versus missions with Guardians, thanks a lot Devs. Guess I will be retreating a lot.

    There's a reason for all of the GOTG teams in LRs. :D

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 732 Critical Contributor

    @DAZ0273 said:
    25 versus missions with Guardians, thanks a lot Devs. Guess I will be retreating a lot.

    LRs are active. The PVP stuff has been pretty easy with those if you can get the seeds. Plus loads of people doing GOTG so not all meta match-ups.

    Good tip in the notes above to wait on the TU usage. Both Tier 2 & 3 can be completed without doing TUs so wait until Tier 4 to grind those.

    Outside of the grind. I've actually enjoyed this and the rewards are worthwhile. Gone from having a few dupe 4*s needing ISO to being ISO positive.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,329 Chairperson of the Boards

    Lightning Rounds. I forget they exist mostly. Ugh. Fine if I have to.

  • Wolvie171
    Wolvie171 Posts: 212 Tile Toppler

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Lightning Rounds. I forget they exist mostly. Ugh. Fine if I have to.

    If you join immediately at the start of a Lightning Round, there will be as many as 11 seed teams. A few LRs should take care of this one. Easy peasy :)

  • Jimsta_rooney
    Jimsta_rooney Posts: 167 Tile Toppler

    I was possibly a bit critical of these before.
    I mean the implementation could have been a lot better but the time given to complete these are realistic enough.you dont have to spend every spare moment on it you can just pick at it

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,329 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Wolvie171 said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Lightning Rounds. I forget they exist mostly. Ugh. Fine if I have to.

    If you join immediately at the start of a Lightning Round, there will be as many as 11 seed teams. A few LRs should take care of this one. Easy peasy :)

    Yeah I know - I have knocked out most of this and will finish on another one. Thanks to all for this.

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