Taganov said: All they really have to do in PvP to "solve" the issue is add an exhaustion/cool down attribute to non-essential characters. This way you can't play the same characters in the same event ad nauseam. Either way, trying to address systemic issues like the speed meta with band aid fixes like nerfing booster characters seems futile.
Phumade said:if you really want more people to play pvp, and thus make it easier for you to get 1200, ask for more milestone quests. Like win 3 matches in a row, get 2 defensive wins etc. in fact I guarantee the easiest way to ensure people get to 1200 (which I have aALWAYS endorsed) is to have a pvp daily quest that requires a win with a team that has 3 different rareities.
Phumade said: Bad said: All those ideas in the end would drive to less people playing pvp. On the event nefarious foes, my apocalypse was buffed along all villains. Reward was a good classic, I dont remember wich one. Well, I almost didnt saw any okoye. But people were not much playing because of that. It was pretty hard to win 1200 points and I got them at 60 wins, I think.Recently is something like that. People play to a certain point. But to 1000 until 1200 points only are playing hulkoye teams.Its a meta pretty taxing so its understable.Now, all those play details wont change that all what I said about her is true, and its needed an okoye level 480 at least and a baby champed one for playing with her.I understand that some vet players feeling confortable with her are not bothered at all.P.S: same issue will happen on time to new YJ. Devs obstinately put on their skill they need to be tanking, and time will render them unable to. People don’t bother to front run points in NEF foes because it’s off season and don’t personally benefit for running up points.if you really want more people to play pvp, and thus make it easier for you to get 1200, ask for more milestone quests. Like win 3 matches in a row, get 2 defensive wins etc. in fact I guarantee the easiest way to ensure people get to 1200 (which I have aALWAYS endorsed) is to have a pvp daily quest that requires a win with a team that has 3 different rareities.without a doubt, targeted quests did more for pvp engagement then any form of char level or new char introductions.a real shame that the quests are largely finished for experienced and they are returning to account maintenance levels of play. Just enough to keep rostering everything, without playing xtra matches
Bad said: All those ideas in the end would drive to less people playing pvp. On the event nefarious foes, my apocalypse was buffed along all villains. Reward was a good classic, I dont remember wich one. Well, I almost didnt saw any okoye. But people were not much playing because of that. It was pretty hard to win 1200 points and I got them at 60 wins, I think.Recently is something like that. People play to a certain point. But to 1000 until 1200 points only are playing hulkoye teams.Its a meta pretty taxing so its understable.Now, all those play details wont change that all what I said about her is true, and its needed an okoye level 480 at least and a baby champed one for playing with her.I understand that some vet players feeling confortable with her are not bothered at all.P.S: same issue will happen on time to new YJ. Devs obstinately put on their skill they need to be tanking, and time will render them unable to.
Manafee said: Hi everybody There are some really good points to keep pvp attractive.In Addition i would suggest to Split pvp into a standard and a wild mode just like hearthstone. In standard Mode the 5*s should rotate after a while...say once in a year or more often. This would keep the meta fresh and there would be no need of a nerf discussion anymore. In wild anything goes. In pve meanwhile all the chars could stay
SnowcaTT said: I challenge you all to go and line up who is on the top of your LB, both PVP and PVE. No names, let's follow forum rules.Currently, here's my slice 3 CL10 pve that ends today:1) 543 Okoye (top character by 6 levels)2) 550 Okoye (top character by 50 levels)3) 550 Okoye (three 550s)4) 550 Okoye (top character by 45 levels)5) 550 Okoye (top character by 38 levels)6) 548 Okoye (top character by 13 levels)7) 508 Okoye (top character by 21 levels)8) 550 Okoye (top character by 12 levels)9) 550 Okoye (top charcater by 66 levels)10) 501 Okoye (top character by 23 levels)11) 550 Okoye (four 550s)12) 520 Okoye (4th biggest character)13) 550 Okoye (top character by 63 levels)14) 503 Okoye (top character by 18 levels)15) 520 Okoye (top character by 15 levels)16) 490 Okoye (top character by 11 levels)17) 506 Okoye (top character by 16 levels)....Notice a trend?Here's my PVP CL10 that ended yesterday1) 550 Okoye (four 550s)2) 550 Okoye (three 550s)3) 550 Okoye (top character by 24 levels)4) 507 Okoye (3rd biggest character)5) 543 Okoye (top character by 6 levels)6) 499 Okoye (7th biggest character)7) 503 Okoye (top character by 18 levels)8) 509 Okoye (top character by 28 levels)I'm almost always CL10, lower CL's might change this outlook - but I've seen leaderboards posted from lower CL's, and it's often fatty okoyes that moved down so they didn't have to compete with the fattest okoyes. I move slices a fair bit - and this isn't unusual at all, almost all Okoye at the top, of both PVP and PVE.
SnowcaTT said: Another Okoye shown in the new announcement (https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/84374/new-in-r219-recruit-page-ui-revamp)Someone mentioned there were 6 okoye vaults/offers last year and no BRB ones? Tell me that trend continuing doesn't point to Okoye nerf.How many have Okoye as their top character, and the Okoye feeder as the bonus hero? It's quickly become the 'only' way to compete in PVE, and as a bonus it allows you to also compete in PVP. With that, vets will have a huge advantage over any new players forever....since the new players have to hoard until Okoye in vaults. I know lots of long-time vets that do that anyway! When it's all one character, it's time for that character to go. However, we saw what happens when that happens - with Evergreen, it will be 100% BRB. And when it was the no-Okoye no-BRB event it was almost 100% carnage. There will always be a 'top' character. But you could probably argue BRB/Carnage wouldn't also be top in the PVE boards.