Nerf Okoye

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  • BigSoftieFF
    BigSoftieFF Posts: 454 Mover and Shaker
    helix72 said:
    BigSoftieFF said:
    I just wish I could buy 30 at a time.

    This. Puhleeeeeaase. Huge QoL improvement as I too am one of those mythical people who runs boosts 100% of the time in both PvE and PvP (other than the 3 easy nodes in PvE).
    Don’t you love when you forget to take them off when fighting easy nodes 😂 
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    What I said a looot of pages back is that apocalypse boost Ihulk on turn 5 being lucky, as Ihulk uses his passive at the beginning of turn.
    Do you want to use 2 boosters? Nice, you are cutting 1 turn. Apocalypse will boost on turn 4.
    Using +2 boosts and playing Ihulk only will be useful when matching 5 critical yellow and then firing SS on turn 1. Probabilities of matching 5 yellow at the start? Surely few.
    So he will boost at turn 4.
    Still cannot be compared to okoye.
  • Beefhammer69
    Beefhammer69 Posts: 58 Match Maker
     It must be that I dont known how it is played, of course.
    It seems you’ve answered your own question. 
  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,287 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2021
    Bad said:
    What I said a looot of pages back is that apocalypse boost Ihulk on turn 5 being lucky, as Ihulk uses his passive at the beginning of turn.
    Do you want to use 2 boosters? Nice, you are cutting 1 turn. Apocalypse will boost on turn 4.
    Using +2 boosts and playing Ihulk only will be useful when matching 5 critical yellow and then firing SS on turn 1. Probabilities of matching 5 yellow at the start? Surely few.
    So he will boost at turn 4.
    Still cannot be compared to okoye.
    You're ignoring the plus all ap boost, as I already said on this very thread, with a plus 2 boost to red/yellow and plus 2 boost to all ap you can make one yellow match on turn one and then fire apocalypse yellow on turn 2.  I do it all the time on shield hops in pvp.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2021
    BriMan2222 said:
    You're ignoring the plus all ap boost, as I already said on this very thread, with a plus 2 boost to red/yellow and plus 2 boost to all ap you can make one yellow match on turn one and then fire apocalypse yellow on turn 2.  I do it all the time on shield hops in pvp.
    Its funny I didnt know it can be pressed another time. 
    So he can boost in turn 3 ihulk Nice.
    Hey! But on the same rule okoye can start since the very beginning doing 6000 boost minimum isnt it?
    What a monster lol. Now I think she really needs to be balanced.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bad said:
    BriMan2222 said:
    You're ignoring the plus all ap boost, as I already said on this very thread, with a plus 2 boost to red/yellow and plus 2 boost to all ap you can make one yellow match on turn one and then fire apocalypse yellow on turn 2.  I do it all the time on shield hops in pvp.

    Hey! But on the same rule okoye can start since the very beginning doing 6000 boost minimum isnt it?
    What a monster lol. Now I think she really needs to be balanced.
    She has nothing to boost without iHulk passively doing AOE. ThorKoye takes several turns (your mileage may vary based on how much green you accrue each turn) to build up to his green ending the match on offense, and on Defense that team basically never fires anything off because without Thor's AP farming, it's pretty slow, but it's the Player Turn 1/Enemy Start of Battle boostable AOE from Hulk that has changed the game here. Apocalypse doesn't "need" hulk as much as he needs a battery because his red will move on from target to target if you down them. He has a fixed overall boost output, but a very high frequency of use. Okoye can start boosting something from turn 1, but until Hulk you were only boosting a passive single target damager or an active AOE user. Somebody knew this would happen when Juggernaut got released, and then either forgot or chose to allow it when Hulk came out.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    She has nothing to boost without iHulk passively doing AOE. 
    She has nothing to boost! But there are a lot of characters out there. What happens? Could it be that on those characters she cannot tank?
    And then its not interesting.
    So once again, ladies and gentlemen, your most unpopular, hated, and unknowing-how-to-play community member returns to his initial suggestion: free her from being in front or losing TU with some adjustments, like activate it when having 3 TU. That will not affect so many player using boosts(even some mythic of them) and will balance her sinergy with poor Ihulk. 
    And then she will be ready for to enjoy any new character.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    I mean that she has nothing to boost until you're done chasing AP to fire the active power. She can be sitting on 30 team up AP, but if no power is being fired, it's just AP in the bank whether or not she's tanking. Reiterating the point that without iHulk doing passive AOE that is boostable, she is not the holy terror she is being made out to be in this thread. Other characters like X-Force Deadpool, Medusa, or Spider-Man 2099 are all single-target passives that can be dangerous sure, but worked around or absorbed any number of ways. 

    Your suggestion of staging the boost in increments of 3 you can see would be an absolute nerf by looking at how Magneto's blue works. You may not think so, but that is a gambit-level nerf.
  • Dogface
    Dogface Posts: 999 Critical Contributor
    Just out of curiosity:  what's the OP's go to team in PVP?
  • SnowcaTT
    SnowcaTT Posts: 3,486 Chairperson of the Boards
    Dogface said:
    Just out of curiosity:  what's the OP's go to team in PVP?

    THIS IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

    I'll send out some investigative fact-finders asap and we'll get answers. Hard hitting journalism coming, stay tuned.
  • SnowcaTT
    SnowcaTT Posts: 3,486 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rosraf said:
    TheXMan said:
    Right after they sell a cover of her and then give RTF support for puzzle gauntlet
    Now that is curious isn't it.  

    If they nerf her now, the bad faith couldn't be more clear.  

    How? When everyone has her...and when no one has her....isn't it the same thing?
  • fight4thedream
    fight4thedream GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,973 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2021
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