New Feature Coming - Targeting Heroes
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Just to be sure, I'm keeping all my LT's and CP in store. Never much of a hoarder, but this feature looks promising enough to wait for.1
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I read around this forum that the devs are anti-hoarding and I'm not sure how true it is.
Assuming it's true, I don't think they will build this feature mainly around opening tokens because 1) Hoarders benefit greatly. 2) It will prove that hoarding is future-proof. These two effects work against the dev's belief.
Hopefully, there's some update next week.1 -
@HoundofShadow, in the past the Devs had said they are against hoarding, in principle, but often new features like Shield Clearance Levels and Bonus Heroes greatly rewarded hoarders so “forum wisdom” tends to favor hoarding.0
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When the Champion system was introduced, hoarders were the big winners. Until then all extra covers were just sold for iso. Many players heard about the coming system, and began to hoard, and came out far ahead of those who had been opening tokens as they got them.0
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Of course the devs don‘t „like“ people hoarding. They want players to spend and buy all the time, and always be short of resources.
However, the game and its mechanics hugely favor hoarding. The wisest thing would be to hoard for months or years, but that tires people out, and is not really a joyful thing to do.
Despite the devs not wanting it, they sure do a bare minimum to work against it. Took many years to finally get saved covers.
Some time ago, prestiging chars was rumoured and people hoarded like crazy. To prevent hoarding, communication and positive gameplay loops are required.0 -
supergarv said:Of course the devs don‘t „like“ people hoarding. They want players to spend and buy all the time, and always be short of resources.
However, the game and its mechanics hugely favor hoarding. The wisest thing would be to hoard for months or years, but that tires people out, and is not really a joyful thing to do.
Despite the devs not wanting it, they sure do a bare minimum to work against it. Took many years to finally get saved covers.
Some time ago, prestiging chars was rumoured and people hoarded like crazy. To prevent hoarding, communication and positive gameplay loops are required.1 -
Based on what have been shared by the vets, hoarders benefit greatly from hoarding: SCL, Championing and Bonus Heroes. I agree with the first two but I think BH don't impact hoarders a lot because it's directly related to RNG. 500 pulls will net about 25 extra 4* covers and 3 extra 5* covers from Bonus Heroes, which doesn't seem significant.
For those who benefited from the above, are they also the ones with excessive iso-8?0 -
Hoarders didn't really benefit from SCL as xp was applied retroactively.
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CT1888 said:Hoarders didn't really benefit from SCL as xp was applied retroactively.They did, because at that time you got XP for applying covers that you hoarded.
As for the „hoarding for years“: Yeah, theres a cutoff when you‘re not in the meta (or a wrong one - looking at you, Gambolt). But say you got Okoye/Thor on their first run and hoarded since, you should be around 1200 LT pulls, that gets you close(r) to the magic 550 trinity of a Latest3, and with that you‘re a golden god (among other MMR gods, so yeah, it always comes at a price)1 -
Twomp_thaDJ said:I may be in the minority here.. but I almost wish that they didn’t make an announcement about an announcement on whats coming.. the speculation (even if not official and completer our own doing) can lead us down a path where we start feeling good.. then it rolls out and it’s the complete opposite.. at least if they just rolled it out we could “critique” it and go from there but this speculation is, to me, a painfully unnecessary first step.. *shrug* my two cents
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CT1888 said:Hoarders didn't really benefit from SCL as xp was applied retroactively.0
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ZootSax said:CT1888 said:Hoarders didn't really benefit from SCL as xp was applied retroactively.0
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Twomp_thaDJ said:I may be in the minority here.. but I almost wish that they didn’t make an announcement about an announcement on whats coming.. the speculation (even if not official and completer our own doing) can lead us down a path where we start feeling good.. then it rolls out and it’s the complete opposite.. at least if they just rolled it out we could “critique” it and go from there but this speculation is, to me, a painfully unnecessary first step.. *shrug* my two cents
i will also say I appreciate any communication on things the devs are working on and wish they would take more time to communicate what they are working on and how they feel about the state of the game and how the game is working.0 -
blankcanvas said:shardwick said:blankcanvas said:Borstock said:370 Bishops and WorthyCaps....everywhere.
Last season: Wooo I'm one of the few that has a champed Juggs.
This season: Dammit.
When I find bishop with gritty I use black suit spidey, vulture, and bishop. I lose bishop every match but the other 2 come out fine. Just focus black because once vulure is flying it's over. It's not a super speedy team but it works.
When I find worthy cap I use kitty, bishop, gamora. Gamoras cheaper stun means I can lock down cap before he gets rolling and she generates specials for kitty to buff when she stuns people. You just have to not match kitties colors early in the match.
I take many more hits with 3 synergistic 5*'s as my defensive team than I do by just using bishop gritty. I can play any teams I want and still get to 75 wins just fine.
Seeing busted bishop and worthy cap just severely limits my team options and sucks the variety straight out of the game. Horribly designed characters imo. If we had more hard counters for their designs it would be a bit better but still obnoxious.3 -
We need some news this week on this. The thread is veering off into broken meta discussion.....help us, developers! Save us from Bishop creep!7
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bluewolf said:We need some news this week on this. The thread is veering off into broken meta discussion.....help us, developers! Save us from Bishop creep!
Don't all threads veer off in that direction1 -
CT1888 said:ZootSax said:CT1888 said:Hoarders didn't really benefit from SCL as xp was applied retroactively.
I was actually just thinking that it's been awhile since I'd seen a thread get OVERCLOCKED! and was wondering if y'all had found a counter to Bishop I missed out on lol.1 -
I was thinking more about the timing:
The season ends November 11th.
Carnage enters November 18th.
Thanksgiving week is the following week and I assume the devs would want to avoid launching a new feature (with potential bugs) on a week when there are likely to be staff planning to be out early in the week and they will close the office for at least 2 days.
So I am thinking the new feature will launch in the next 2 weeks or so. If I were them I'd want a system that is tied to opening things to be in place by the time the Latest tokens update.0 -
bluewolf said:[...] I assume the devs would want to avoid launching a new feature (with potential bugs) on a week when there are likely to be staff planning to be out early in the week and they will close the office for at least 2 days.[...].3
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