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  • IIAlonditeII
    IIAlonditeII Posts: 150 Tile Toppler
    Godzillafan67 said:
    tiomono said:
    Bowgentle said:
    jp1 said:
    Sure, I understand being frustrated. I agree an update is warranted, but it is possible that during development there were some unforeseen challenges, something came up in QA, final approval is sitting on someone’s desk who is out for vacation, etc... 

    They might not have an answer is my point. I’m just saying if they get backlash when they listen to ya and offer some communication history seems to indicate they will just stop altogether, not pop in and offer additional info as requested.

    Also, to be fair they have already indicated the timeline was not specific. I’m not trying to invalidate anyone’s feelings of frustration here, I have them too...I just think we need to temper our expectations a little.
    They never have gotten backlash when they were talking.
    Never.

    The backlash always starts happening when they STOP communicating.
    "Your supposed to lose" was communication.

    Never say never.

    Side note on grilled cheese, YouTube Elmer fudd grilled cheese.
    If they had communicated "you're supposed to lose" prior to everyone losing, then the forums might have had a bit less vitriol when the bloodbath commenced.
    What is "supposed to lose" in reference to?
  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 616 Critical Contributor
    IIAlonditeII said:
    Godzillafan67 said:
    tiomono said:
    Bowgentle said:
    jp1 said:
    Sure, I understand being frustrated. I agree an update is warranted, but it is possible that during development there were some unforeseen challenges, something came up in QA, final approval is sitting on someone’s desk who is out for vacation, etc... 

    They might not have an answer is my point. I’m just saying if they get backlash when they listen to ya and offer some communication history seems to indicate they will just stop altogether, not pop in and offer additional info as requested.

    Also, to be fair they have already indicated the timeline was not specific. I’m not trying to invalidate anyone’s feelings of frustration here, I have them too...I just think we need to temper our expectations a little.
    They never have gotten backlash when they were talking.
    Never.

    The backlash always starts happening when they STOP communicating.
    "Your supposed to lose" was communication.

    Never say never.

    Side note on grilled cheese, YouTube Elmer fudd grilled cheese.
    If they had communicated "you're supposed to lose" prior to everyone losing, then the forums might have had a bit less vitriol when the bloodbath commenced.
    What is "supposed to lose" in reference to?

    The very first time the MPQ player base encountered Galactus, we lost.  We lost hard.  If they had told us ahead of time what to expect, then our expectations would have been tempered appropriately (or closer to appropriate levels).  This advance announcement of an upcoming announcement with no further follow up feels familiar. 

    https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/33616/on-galactus-run-1-game-feel-vs-ultron/p1

    3rd Paragraph from IceIX:

    Galactus is different. The "minion" fights against the villains are relatively simple. They're there as minor hazards but relatively easily winnable. Galactus on the other hand is a massive threat. He's not going to be stopped by gnats. Iron Fist punching him in the toe isn't very painful. So he gets bored and swats them away. In game terms, this means that players are going to be beaten. Winning a round against Galactus is an achievement. You're supposed to lose. Every time you do, you're still chipping away at his life. It's an exercise in damage in aggregate. Over the 3.5 days, hitting him over and over to finally bring down the big bad is somewhat slow, but certainly effective.

  • Aldaen
    Aldaen Posts: 24 Just Dropped In
    I'm going to get to the real reason why I want to know more about this feature ASAP, and I'm guessing it's the same for some others...

    It's because this announcement makes me want to horde everything until I know more.  Since the shards feature might reward us for opening covers, I have started holding onto all of my tokens  (standard, elite, heroic, LL).  LL hording is status quo for me and others, but this game is less fun when you're opening less tokens, and fatigue soon sets in.  It is especially painful when you don't know if you're even hording every token for a good reason. This leads to dissatisfaction with playing the game overall.

    So it is in everybody's best interest (devs and players) if they would give us some details on this new feature ASAP.  At the very least, it would be good to know if there is any value in holding onto lower-end tokens.
  • jtmagee
    jtmagee Posts: 158 Tile Toppler
    Hoard no matter what. Don’t play like me and open everything. Haha.

    I just hope it retroactively takes into account past transgressions like SCL did. 
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think there's a difference between communicating with a purpose and communicating just to pander to players' every whims. 

    The fact is, no matter how much they pre-empt what's going to happen and what's not going to happen, some will still ignore what they have said and continue to fill this place with conspiracy theories. 

    The weird thing is, they have set the expectations when they answered the Q&As about communication last year. As a matter of fact, the answer they gave is similar to the answer they gave 3 or 4 years ago. They have set expectations (kind of) about this feature as well.

    Unfortunately, some will still continue to make use of this "announced silence" to further conspiracies and create unnecessary negativities among the community. I'm baffled. What's the point of doing these and what do you get in the end? How often has this worked over the past few years? How has boasting about how you are smarter, better, more talented than the dev teams help make this forum a better place?
    Note: You" doesn't refer to all players.

    What I understand based on whatever was communicated is this: The timeline for this new feature is between *11/18 and 31/12. 

    *I saw this either in here or Reddit. It was something along the line of the feature won't be out before 11/18.

    Patience.
  • shardwick
    shardwick Posts: 2,121 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ice literally said on the first page of this thread that we would know more about how the feature worked in a couple weeks. It's been a couple weeks now. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that they would be providing more details this week.
  • tiomono
    tiomono Posts: 1,654 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2019
    shardwick said:
    Ice literally said on the first page of this thread that we would know more about how the feature worked in a couple weeks. It's been a couple weeks now. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that they would be providing more details this week.
    Technically he said in the coming weeks. Not couple.

    Edit: nvm I see him saying couple. :)
  • Aldaen
    Aldaen Posts: 24 Just Dropped In
    edited October 2019
    IceIX said:
    chrisH said:
    Can you give some details on what counts as progress towards your target hero cover? Opening tokens, placement in events ect?
    Those kind of details will be coming out in the next couple weeks, yes.
    For reference above.  Hopefully we get word today (been 2 weeks since that was posted), but Friday is still a reasonable interpretation of "next couple weeks".  Anything after that would be a poor job of setting expectations.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,471 Chairperson of the Boards
    When I want to make a distinction between 2, and more than that, but less than a lot, i'll use the word "few" myself.
  • Aldaen
    Aldaen Posts: 24 Just Dropped In
    edited October 2019
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    When I want to make a distinction between 2, and more than that, but less than a lot, i'll use the word "few" myself.
    Yes, that is considered proper use of few.  Not so important a distinction when you're talking with friends, but when communicating with customers and setting expectations, you don't want to use "couple" when you really mean "few"
  • tiomono
    tiomono Posts: 1,654 Chairperson of the Boards
    Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
    Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.

    If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
  • IIAlonditeII
    IIAlonditeII Posts: 150 Tile Toppler
    tiomono said:
    Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
    Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.

    If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
    He also said couple, which means "2".
  • tiomono
    tiomono Posts: 1,654 Chairperson of the Boards
    IIAlonditeII said:
    tiomono said:
    Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
    Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.

    If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
    He also said couple, which means "2".
    Or it could mean an indefinite small number. You are sick and hope to be better in a couple days.

    I'm just saying when we put a strict timeline to statements that are not strictly laid out you will frustrate yourself.
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,854 Chairperson of the Boards
    If the date I saw is accurate - no sooner than 11/18 - then it doesn't matter much if we get news today or even next week, since it'll be a long time before it matters.

    And this feature could well launch in December given the Thanksgiving holiday.
  • Therealsmkspy
    Therealsmkspy Posts: 254 Mover and Shaker
    edited October 2019
    They should have just sucked it up and gave us a feeder, which was pretty much the main complaint of the entire "anniversary." 

     An announcement for an announcement that is weeks away is obviously fooolish.
  • shardwick
    shardwick Posts: 2,121 Chairperson of the Boards
    Like how difficult would it have been to just give us all the details from the start? Now people are debating over the meaning of a couple. 
  • pheregas
    pheregas Posts: 1,721 Chairperson of the Boards
    I _love_ that the lack of communication and our hunger for information has reduced us to a debate on what a "couple" means...
  • tiomono
    tiomono Posts: 1,654 Chairperson of the Boards
    shardwick said:
    Like how difficult would it have been to just give us all the details from the start? Now people are debating over the meaning of a couple. 
    The definition of couple or few is not really open for debate. It simply is what it is. It's not a debate to give a definition for a word. 

    That said it could of been nice to have more info up front. However we didnt get more info up front. It's not the end of the world if we do not have all the information on how something will work in advance.

    Many competitive video games do this. They tease upcoming features or changes but do not give out specific details in advance.

    I think some people are antsy because it may be tied to opening tokens. So they decided to hoard until this goes live so they have a head start. For me I just continue to play how I play and when a new feature is in the game i decide if i need to alter my gameplay or not. 

  • Therealsmkspy
    Therealsmkspy Posts: 254 Mover and Shaker
    edited October 2019
    Problem with the word "couple of" is that it has become an idiom slang term. This isn't a grammar 101 class, so I'm not surprised the phrase was thrown out without thought that people might take it literally.

    This pre-pre-announcement just should have not been made, especially under the guise of extending the anniversary celebration. It's just has done more harm than good when the effect is that we're left for weeks building up expectations and theories for something that will, without a doubt, measure up to the actual product. 
  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 616 Critical Contributor

    We've how many posts and pages for this teaser news?  Every post should have simply been something akin to "Yay!  Can't wait!  Wonder what exactly it'll be? <insert guess including human sacrifices>".

    I've time enough to finish off a couple of grilled cheese sandwiches before any real news is released.

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