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tiomono said:
Or it could mean an indefinite small number. You are sick and hope to be better in a couple days.IIAlonditeII said:
He also said couple, which means "2".tiomono said:Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.
If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
I'm just saying when we put a strict timeline to statements that are not strictly laid out you will frustrate yourself.noun- 1.two individuals of the same sort considered together."a couple of girls were playing marbles"Similar:pairduoduologytwosomeset of twomatchdoubletstwinsbracespanyoketwotwo of a kinddupletdyadduaddoubletontwain
- 2.two people who are married, engaged, or otherwise closely associated romantically or sexually.Similar:husband and wifetwosomenewlywedspartnersloverscohabitees
So, I get where you're coming from, but couple actually doesn't mean "indefinite small number". Some people use it that way, and I get that, but that's not what it means. Probably just part of being a southerner, but we really differentiate hard on "couple" vs "several" vs "a li'l" vs "a few". Except when I've been traveling to other regions of the US, I've only ever heard couple mean "two, precisely".0 -
Couple - 2
Few - 3, 4
Several - 5, 6, 7
You could maybe stretch several into 8, but generally that’s how it goes.
Either way, I bet we’ll see a few more details next week, with implementation in December. I decided to not fret about any of it. Not worth the time or energy.0 -
My guess (hope?) is they realize just how important this feature will be in keeping a lot of vets that are on the fence about quitting, so they are taking their time before releasing any info they may later regret. But they wanted to get that initial word out before too many were so bummed out by the anniversary/no feeder stuff and just bailed.1
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Definition 3 according to googleIIAlonditeII said:tiomono said:
Or it could mean an indefinite small number. You are sick and hope to be better in a couple days.IIAlonditeII said:
He also said couple, which means "2".tiomono said:Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.
If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
I'm just saying when we put a strict timeline to statements that are not strictly laid out you will frustrate yourself.noun- 1.two individuals of the same sort considered together."a couple of girls were playing marbles"Similar:pairduoduologytwosomeset of twomatchdoubletstwinsbracespanyoketwotwo of a kinddupletdyadduaddoubletontwain
- 2.two people who are married, engaged, or otherwise closely associated romantically or sexually.Similar:husband and wifetwosomenewlywedspartnersloverscohabitees
So, I get where you're coming from, but couple actually doesn't mean "indefinite small number". Some people use it that way, and I get that, but that's not what it means. Probably just part of being a southerner, but we really differentiate hard on "couple" vs "several" vs "a li'l" vs "a few". Except when I've been traveling to other regions of the US, I've only ever heard couple mean "two, precisely"..INFORMALan indefinite small number."he hoped she'd be better in a couple of days"3 -
The defintion shifts between dictionaries. Some including the indefinite period as an informal use.IIAlonditeII said:tiomono said:
Or it could mean an indefinite small number. You are sick and hope to be better in a couple days.IIAlonditeII said:
He also said couple, which means "2".tiomono said:Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.
If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
I'm just saying when we put a strict timeline to statements that are not strictly laid out you will frustrate yourself.noun- 1.two individuals of the same sort considered together."a couple of girls were playing marbles"Similar:pairduoduologytwosomeset of twomatchdoubletstwinsbracespanyoketwotwo of a kinddupletdyadduaddoubletontwain
- 2.two people who are married, engaged, or otherwise closely associated romantically or sexually.Similar:husband and wifetwosomenewlywedspartnersloverscohabitees
So, I get where you're coming from, but couple actually doesn't mean "indefinite small number". Some people use it that way, and I get that, but that's not what it means. Probably just part of being a southerner, but we really differentiate hard on "couple" vs "several" vs "a li'l" vs "a few". Except when I've been traveling to other regions of the US, I've only ever heard couple mean "two, precisely".
The problem with language is it is fluid. Meaning is not derived from the word alone, but the context surrounding it. It is interpretive, not concrete.
Saying 'Morning' to the receptionist as you walk into work would have a totally different meaning than parent saying it to a teenager as they staggering into the house drunk in the middle of the night. A boss saying it was to a late employee could be interpreted as passive aggressive aggressive. Changing the context, you could change the meaning behind that word in hundreds of ways. But the dictionary definition would never change.
Dictionaries basically suck, as they don't reflect everyday language use. They are more to help you figure out the meaning, given the context rather than provide a concrete interpretation.2 -
I always tell people using definition 3 or 4 of a word they’d do better with a synonym that had a primary or secondary meaning closer to what you’re after, but again that’s just me.1
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English certainly has no shortage of words to describe similar things.ThaRoadWarrior said:I always tell people using definition 3 or 4 of a word they’d do better with a synonym that had a primary or secondary meaning closer to what you’re after, but again that’s just me.
I would like news on this soon though. Even if it does turn out to be a dud feature, at least they are acknowledging dillution is an issue and are trying to come up with new ways to handle it.0 -
ahh man, it's disappointing this thread has been derailed to an English lesson. I guess that's due to the lack of update.9
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I think some need to accept that the world is not shaded in only black and white. Uncertainties and changes are constant. No plan survives contact with the enemies. No one lives a life where they get information of what's going to happen in the future very single time. When uncertainty meets you face to face, this is when your past experiences, observations and gut instincts come in to fill the gap. If your gut instinct is to hoard, then hoard. If you are wrong about it, so what? If there's no way to know what's going to happen in advance, simply adapt and react accordingly when things happen.
And remember, "Valve time": Things don't always go as planned.
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If a couple can mean three, can a thruple mean two?0
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Whenever I see a group of people I always tell them that they make a cute couple.Daredevil217 said:If a couple can mean three, can a thruple mean two?4 -
@IceIX yo, we are currently debating the phrase couple. Just a small nugget would help so we can latch on to that word and debate it until more comes out.
Only you can stop this insanity....please? Even a Friday news dump would be great.3 -
Interestingly, that sense of the word comes from the Latin 'Coupla' which means link / connect.shardwick said:
Whenever I see a group of people I always tell them that they make a cute couple.Daredevil217 said:If a couple can mean three, can a thruple mean two?
It's why you can couple cables together.
It's also why couple is synonym for intercourse.
So, couple in that sense is used to signal the relationship or connection between each other.
When you say they are a cute couple, are you really saying they are a cute two? Or that they are cute together?
They are a happily married couple.
They are a happily married two.
They are in a happy relationship.
Kind of interesting how meaning slips, isn't it?
Edit: just in case your interested - it is mostly due to the change in word class. A cute couple is a noun. In a couple of weeks is an adjective. Your using it to quantify the noun weeks.
Changes the meaning.2 -
A "nugget" is just a "dollop" that has been left in the sun to dry upOJSP said:How much is a small nugget?0 -
Right and I've already -also- explained that, aside from the strict definition of couple meaning "2", the way it is used locally is also exclusively "2", and therefore I couldn't have had a way to know that he could've meant anything other than "2". If I start using slang that is more regionally relevant on an internet board I can't expect it to click necessarilyJDFiend said:
The defintion shifts between dictionaries. Some including the indefinite period as an informal use.IIAlonditeII said:tiomono said:
Or it could mean an indefinite small number. You are sick and hope to be better in a couple days.IIAlonditeII said:
He also said couple, which means "2".tiomono said:Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.
If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
I'm just saying when we put a strict timeline to statements that are not strictly laid out you will frustrate yourself.noun- 1.two individuals of the same sort considered together."a couple of girls were playing marbles"Similar:pairduoduologytwosomeset of twomatchdoubletstwinsbracespanyoketwotwo of a kinddupletdyadduaddoubletontwain
- 2.two people who are married, engaged, or otherwise closely associated romantically or sexually.Similar:husband and wifetwosomenewlywedspartnersloverscohabitees
So, I get where you're coming from, but couple actually doesn't mean "indefinite small number". Some people use it that way, and I get that, but that's not what it means. Probably just part of being a southerner, but we really differentiate hard on "couple" vs "several" vs "a li'l" vs "a few". Except when I've been traveling to other regions of the US, I've only ever heard couple mean "two, precisely".
The problem with language is it is fluid. Meaning is not derived from the word alone, but the context surrounding it. It is interpretive, not concrete.
Saying 'Morning' to the receptionist as you walk into work would have a totally different meaning than parent saying it to a teenager as they staggering into the house drunk in the middle of the night. A boss saying it was to a late employee could be interpreted as passive aggressive aggressive. Changing the context, you could change the meaning behind that word in hundreds of ways. But the dictionary definition would never change.
Dictionaries basically suck, as they don't reflect everyday language use. They are more to help you figure out the meaning, given the context rather than provide a concrete interpretation.0 -
Okay. But it's not a noun. It's an adjective being used as a quanitifer.IIAlonditeII said:
Right and I've already -also- explained that, aside from the strict definition of couple meaning "2", the way it is used locally is also exclusively "2", and therefore I couldn't have had a way to know that he could've meant anything other than "2". If I start using slang that is more regionally relevant on an internet board I can't expect it to click necessarilyJDFiend said:
The defintion shifts between dictionaries. Some including the indefinite period as an informal use.IIAlonditeII said:tiomono said:
Or it could mean an indefinite small number. You are sick and hope to be better in a couple days.IIAlonditeII said:
He also said couple, which means "2".tiomono said:Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.
If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
I'm just saying when we put a strict timeline to statements that are not strictly laid out you will frustrate yourself.noun- 1.two individuals of the same sort considered together."a couple of girls were playing marbles"Similar:pairduoduologytwosomeset of twomatchdoubletstwinsbracespanyoketwotwo of a kinddupletdyadduaddoubletontwain
- 2.two people who are married, engaged, or otherwise closely associated romantically or sexually.Similar:husband and wifetwosomenewlywedspartnersloverscohabitees
So, I get where you're coming from, but couple actually doesn't mean "indefinite small number". Some people use it that way, and I get that, but that's not what it means. Probably just part of being a southerner, but we really differentiate hard on "couple" vs "several" vs "a li'l" vs "a few". Except when I've been traveling to other regions of the US, I've only ever heard couple mean "two, precisely".
The problem with language is it is fluid. Meaning is not derived from the word alone, but the context surrounding it. It is interpretive, not concrete.
Saying 'Morning' to the receptionist as you walk into work would have a totally different meaning than parent saying it to a teenager as they staggering into the house drunk in the middle of the night. A boss saying it was to a late employee could be interpreted as passive aggressive aggressive. Changing the context, you could change the meaning behind that word in hundreds of ways. But the dictionary definition would never change.
Dictionaries basically suck, as they don't reflect everyday language use. They are more to help you figure out the meaning, given the context rather than provide a concrete interpretation.
From:-https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/coupleCouple
1. quantifierIf you refer to a couple of people or things, you mean two or approximately two of them, although the exact number is not important or you are not sure of it.Across the street from me there are a couple of police officers standing guard. [+ of]I think the trouble will clear up in a couple of days. [+ of]...a small town a couple of hundred miles from New York City. [+ of]Couple is also a determiner in spoken American English, and before 'more' and 'less'....a couple weeks before the election.I think I can play maybe for a couple more years.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/couple
USAGE NOTE FOR COUPLEThe phrase a couple of, meaning “a small number of; a few; several,” has been in standard use for centuries, especially with measurements of time and distance and in referring to amounts of money: They walked a couple of miles in silence. Repairs will probably cost a couple of hundred dollars. The phrase is used in all but the most formal speech and writing. The shortened phrase a couple, without of ( The gas station is a couple miles from here ), is an Americanism of recent development that occurs chiefly in informal speech or representations of speech, especially when followed by number terms (as a couple dozen eggs ) or units of measurement (as a couple years ago; a couple gallons of gas ). This use of couple (as an adjective or modifier) is still disliked by many. Without a following noun, a couple is even more informal: Jack shouldn't drive. It's clear he's had a couple. (Here the noun drinks is omitted.)
So there is a shift in meaning, as it is not the noun...3 -
I'm not arguing that it's pretty semantical, what I'm arguing is that it's not a fault to not know the improper / slang uses of a word being used a different way outside of your region. I'm not mad at you guys for knowing that "couple" is used to mean "few" in your region. I'm just saying I couldn't be expected to be aware of that.JDFiend said:
Okay. But it's not a noun. It's an adjective being used as a quanitifer.IIAlonditeII said:
Right and I've already -also- explained that, aside from the strict definition of couple meaning "2", the way it is used locally is also exclusively "2", and therefore I couldn't have had a way to know that he could've meant anything other than "2". If I start using slang that is more regionally relevant on an internet board I can't expect it to click necessarilyJDFiend said:
The defintion shifts between dictionaries. Some including the indefinite period as an informal use.IIAlonditeII said:tiomono said:
Or it could mean an indefinite small number. You are sick and hope to be better in a couple days.IIAlonditeII said:
He also said couple, which means "2".tiomono said:Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.
If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
I'm just saying when we put a strict timeline to statements that are not strictly laid out you will frustrate yourself.noun- 1.two individuals of the same sort considered together."a couple of girls were playing marbles"Similar:pairduoduologytwosomeset of twomatchdoubletstwinsbracespanyoketwotwo of a kinddupletdyadduaddoubletontwain
- 2.two people who are married, engaged, or otherwise closely associated romantically or sexually.Similar:husband and wifetwosomenewlywedspartnersloverscohabitees
So, I get where you're coming from, but couple actually doesn't mean "indefinite small number". Some people use it that way, and I get that, but that's not what it means. Probably just part of being a southerner, but we really differentiate hard on "couple" vs "several" vs "a li'l" vs "a few". Except when I've been traveling to other regions of the US, I've only ever heard couple mean "two, precisely".
The problem with language is it is fluid. Meaning is not derived from the word alone, but the context surrounding it. It is interpretive, not concrete.
Saying 'Morning' to the receptionist as you walk into work would have a totally different meaning than parent saying it to a teenager as they staggering into the house drunk in the middle of the night. A boss saying it was to a late employee could be interpreted as passive aggressive aggressive. Changing the context, you could change the meaning behind that word in hundreds of ways. But the dictionary definition would never change.
Dictionaries basically suck, as they don't reflect everyday language use. They are more to help you figure out the meaning, given the context rather than provide a concrete interpretation.
From:-https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/coupleCouple
1. quantifierIf you refer to a couple of people or things, you mean two or approximately two of them, although the exact number is not important or you are not sure of it.Across the street from me there are a couple of police officers standing guard. [+ of]I think the trouble will clear up in a couple of days. [+ of]...a small town a couple of hundred miles from New York City. [+ of]Couple is also a determiner in spoken American English, and before 'more' and 'less'....a couple weeks before the election.I think I can play maybe for a couple more years.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/couple
USAGE NOTE FOR COUPLEThe phrase a couple of, meaning “a small number of; a few; several,” has been in standard use for centuries, especially with measurements of time and distance and in referring to amounts of money: They walked a couple of miles in silence. Repairs will probably cost a couple of hundred dollars. The phrase is used in all but the most formal speech and writing. The shortened phrase a couple, without of ( The gas station is a couple miles from here ), is an Americanism of recent development that occurs chiefly in informal speech or representations of speech, especially when followed by number terms (as a couple dozen eggs ) or units of measurement (as a couple years ago; a couple gallons of gas ). This use of couple (as an adjective or modifier) is still disliked by many. Without a following noun, a couple is even more informal: Jack shouldn't drive. It's clear he's had a couple. (Here the noun drinks is omitted.)
So there is a shift in meaning, as it is not the noun...3 -
But it is not improper or slang. It's just not a noun.IIAlonditeII said:
I'm not arguing that it's pretty semantical, what I'm arguing is that it's not a fault to not know the improper / slang uses of a word being used a different way outside of your region. I'm not mad at you guys for knowing that "couple" is used to mean "few" in your region. I'm just saying I couldn't be expected to be aware of that.JDFiend said:
Okay. But it's not a noun. It's an adjective being used as a quanitifer.IIAlonditeII said:
Right and I've already -also- explained that, aside from the strict definition of couple meaning "2", the way it is used locally is also exclusively "2", and therefore I couldn't have had a way to know that he could've meant anything other than "2". If I start using slang that is more regionally relevant on an internet board I can't expect it to click necessarilyJDFiend said:
The defintion shifts between dictionaries. Some including the indefinite period as an informal use.IIAlonditeII said:tiomono said:
Or it could mean an indefinite small number. You are sick and hope to be better in a couple days.IIAlonditeII said:
He also said couple, which means "2".tiomono said:Few does not mean 2. It means more than one and less than a lot.
Stop putting specific expectations on things when we were not given specific timing for more information.
If you had a wait of 52 weeks and had like 6 weeks left it could be appropriate to describe the wait as a few weeks when looking at the total time.
I'm just saying when we put a strict timeline to statements that are not strictly laid out you will frustrate yourself.noun- 1.two individuals of the same sort considered together."a couple of girls were playing marbles"Similar:pairduoduologytwosomeset of twomatchdoubletstwinsbracespanyoketwotwo of a kinddupletdyadduaddoubletontwain
- 2.two people who are married, engaged, or otherwise closely associated romantically or sexually.Similar:husband and wifetwosomenewlywedspartnersloverscohabitees
So, I get where you're coming from, but couple actually doesn't mean "indefinite small number". Some people use it that way, and I get that, but that's not what it means. Probably just part of being a southerner, but we really differentiate hard on "couple" vs "several" vs "a li'l" vs "a few". Except when I've been traveling to other regions of the US, I've only ever heard couple mean "two, precisely".
The problem with language is it is fluid. Meaning is not derived from the word alone, but the context surrounding it. It is interpretive, not concrete.
Saying 'Morning' to the receptionist as you walk into work would have a totally different meaning than parent saying it to a teenager as they staggering into the house drunk in the middle of the night. A boss saying it was to a late employee could be interpreted as passive aggressive aggressive. Changing the context, you could change the meaning behind that word in hundreds of ways. But the dictionary definition would never change.
Dictionaries basically suck, as they don't reflect everyday language use. They are more to help you figure out the meaning, given the context rather than provide a concrete interpretation.
From:-https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/coupleCouple
1. quantifierIf you refer to a couple of people or things, you mean two or approximately two of them, although the exact number is not important or you are not sure of it.Across the street from me there are a couple of police officers standing guard. [+ of]I think the trouble will clear up in a couple of days. [+ of]...a small town a couple of hundred miles from New York City. [+ of]Couple is also a determiner in spoken American English, and before 'more' and 'less'....a couple weeks before the election.I think I can play maybe for a couple more years.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/couple
USAGE NOTE FOR COUPLEThe phrase a couple of, meaning “a small number of; a few; several,” has been in standard use for centuries, especially with measurements of time and distance and in referring to amounts of money: They walked a couple of miles in silence. Repairs will probably cost a couple of hundred dollars. The phrase is used in all but the most formal speech and writing. The shortened phrase a couple, without of ( The gas station is a couple miles from here ), is an Americanism of recent development that occurs chiefly in informal speech or representations of speech, especially when followed by number terms (as a couple dozen eggs ) or units of measurement (as a couple years ago; a couple gallons of gas ). This use of couple (as an adjective or modifier) is still disliked by many. Without a following noun, a couple is even more informal: Jack shouldn't drive. It's clear he's had a couple. (Here the noun drinks is omitted.)
So there is a shift in meaning, as it is not the noun...1 -
I noted today that the comment from Ice was "the next couple weeks" while the initial announcement says:
"We're excited to provide you more info in the coming weeks, but wanted to provide you with a little teaser today!"
So maybe there was a small slip on Ice's part when he posted his comment.
"Coming weeks" is much more open ended and says to me more than 2...probably at least 3-4, and easily more than that.
Alright, you may resume debating the meaning of the word "couple".0
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