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Ive never seen so many Devil's Advocates in one place...
But i fear that i just summoned someone to post some sort of "Devil's Advocate" meme or gif.
For real, though... Theres enough advocates here to create a service to hire out to someone looking for capable counter-point lawyers no matter how small or inconsiquential the details.
I wonder what the going rate could be...
In all seriousness, im also in the boat of wanting more info, and was happy to see that i missed like 50+ messages, but dismayed to only see it was due to a complete derailing, followed by attempts to repair and derail further.5 -
PiMacleod said:Ive never seen so many Devil's Advocates in one place...
But i fear that i just summoned someone to post some sort of "Devil's Advocate" meme or gif.
For real, though... Theres enough advocates here to create a service to hire out to someone looking for capable counter-point lawyers no matter how small or inconsiquential the details.
I wonder what the going rate could be...
In all seriousness, im also in the boat of wanting more info, and was happy to see that i missed like 50+ messages, but dismayed to only see it was due to a complete derailing, followed by attempts to repair and derail further.
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I think we scared lakestone/icex away...0
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I think they are discussing with their lawyers on how to craft the perfect message that has not more than one way of interpretation for MPQ players around the globe. It will probably take a couple months given all the nuances that they have to be aware of.3
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HoundofShadow said:I think they are discussing with their lawyers on how to craft the perfect message that has not more than one way of interpretation for MPQ players around the globe. It will probably take a couple months given all the nuances that they have to be aware of.0
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HoundofShadow said:I think they are discussing with their lawyers on how to craft the perfect message that has not more than one way of interpretation for MPQ players around the globe. It will probably take a couple months given all the nuances that they have to be aware of.Offices of lawyers to MPQ Devs:MPQ Devs: Help! We promised our Official Forum an update on our new game feature but all of our other games are on fire and so the only resources we have left to throw at MPQ is Bob from Photocopying...oh no wait...seems like Bob is running the Facebook page! What do we say?!??Lawyer: No Comment.MPQ Devs: Genius!Lawyer: That will be $10,000.6
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Three weeks and counting. How many weeks have to pass before we all agree it is no longer a "couple weeks"0
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Probably a couple more weeks.12
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This is the danger of using "Ideal Person-Days" when estimating tasks rather than a Nebulous Time Unit (NTU) like a Story Point. When you say something is going to take N Ideal Days, it gives a false sense of precision due to the overloading of the term "day" here. People outside your contextual group will assume you mean the standard definition of day, ie a day on the calendar, rather than the Agile Project Management jargon definition of an hypothetical uninterrupted 8hr work day. Here "a couple weeks" can only have meant "14 ideal man days" which could be anything from 9-20 actual calendar days of work due to holidays, weekends, email interruptions, meetings, inter-office pandemics, etc.
See also:
http://www.base36.com/2013/01/picking-a-side-in-the-story-points-vs-ideal-days-debate/
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/month-of-sundays--a
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What's more likely...that a couple weeks meant the standard definition, and it turns out the info simply wasn't ready to share as expected...or this was alternate industry specific usage of a word on a layman's message board, an elaborate ruse, or outright linguistuc trickery to buy more time while simultaneously angering the people it was meant to make happy?
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Even if the devs told us it will be released around end of November, it doesn't mean that it will happen according to plan. They can always activate Valve Time and you can't impeach them because things didn't happen as scheduled. It"s similar to the clause you find in many companies like " We have the right to change.... at our own discretion."
If you want to continue to bite on them regarding this or dimiss Valve Time as an excuse, you are making yourself frustrated and showing that you refuse to acknowledge or understand how the game development industry works.
I think for the time being, just check back again during the next few holidays like Veteran/Thanksgiving/Chrismas Day which fall on 11/11, 11/28 and 25/12.1 -
I can't believe that there are still people defending this communication.1) This was clearly thrown out as a distraction to get people away from asking about the promised "more stuff for anniversary" when clearly there was nothing more planned or coming.
2) Yeah, stuff get's pushed all the time.
But do you usually see companies who push stuff go into hiding, ignoring emails from their superiors or customers?
Because that's basically what's happening there.
Yes, details probably are still not finalized.
We get that.
There's no need to post details.
Just pop in, say "hey, we promised follow up info, but that stuff's not being ready to be discussed.
Sorry about that, we'll get back to you when there is new info".
That should have been posted weeks ago.
3) This is not a charity company, with indy developers coding a small project in their spare time, for free.
This is a F2P game with one of the biggest licenses on earth trying to get people to spend money.
Playing dead for weeks when their customers (and potential customers) ask for information on their official communication platform is simply not acceptable.Just say "no news, stay tuned", but say SOMETHING.Don't pretend this place doesn't exist, or just shut it down if it's too high maintenance.
Seriously, the amount of white knighting in here is disgusting.
It's not like people are asking for every bit of detail about this promised new feature.
People are asking for a status update.30 -
Your Anniversary event was underwhelming. Do you...
A. Give everyone 5k iso and a handful of tokens to a post event Anniversary vault as a way of saying "my bad" as you continue to work on a new feature.
or
B. Tease a big new feature and then completely ignore all communication on your official forum which will only irritate people even more.9 -
You knew the news of gnus was new!
No, we know of no new news on gnus.
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shardwick said:Your Anniversary event was underwhelming. Do you...
A. Give everyone 5k iso and a handful of tokens to a post event Anniversary vault as a way of saying "my bad" as you continue to work on a new feature.
or
B. Tease a big new feature and then completely ignore all communication on your official forum which will only irritate people even more.
A. Dodge quickly to the side and counter strike
B. Take a claw to the face and die.
Aaarggggh! Should of went for option a.5 -
A. Dodge quickly to the side and counter strike
B. Take a claw to the face and die.
Aaarggggh! Should of went for option a.1 -
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I remember being really baffled when IceX came back and everyone cheered his return as if it was going to usher in a new age of communication.I *remember* the amount of times he gave us the stonewall.3
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Friday again and still no update, I really hope in future they don’t do anything like this.It’s really wrong to promise new content and suggest regular updates on this new content will be forthcoming only to provide nothing for almost a month and no explanation as to why.
Same as before, they said there was this flu bug going around the MPQ office and a lot of us were fine with it but what is the excuse this time??7 -
maybe they identify as mute and we're all full of hate for demanding conversation...1
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