broll said: DaBeast911 said:@d90I sympathize with you and agree 100%. It takes no extra work to restore your 5 star, people have had it done before. I've seen entire rosters deleted on a video and then miraculously restored so restoring a character is a minor feat. It would be such a big deal if it is was a 3 star or heck even a 4 star but those 5 stars are extremely rare to come by and then to accidentally sell one is deflating. A year ago, restoring it wouldn't have been a problem, I sold a fully covered 266 Storm and had it restored, no problem. They simply looked at my roster the day before I sold it, saw it was there and replaced it. Heck, they even let me keep the ISO, which I was shocked by. I sympathize with you and hope that it works out. It's impossible that it "takes no extra work to restore your 5 star". I don't know how much extra work it is, but the fact that someone needs to read a ticket and respond to it invalids your statement. If it were no extra work it would be fully automated and require 0 human interaction. I don't know how complex it would be to restore a 5* and neither do you. I would guess it's not overly complicated, but again I don't truly know. Let's say for the sake of argument it takes 10 minutes and CS can do it. If they applied a policy of everyone can blanket undo a delete of any character and 1% of the players base takes advantage of this twice a year or more. Let's suppose the game has 100,000 active players (I'm guessing i have no idea). CS is now spending 10,000 minutes or 167 hours or 21 business days a year just supporting fixing peoples mistakes. It's even worse if you consider it could take developer involvement and then you're taking 21 days of development time away from the game to support this for all players.The point is something small done a lot really adds up, a lot more than you'd initially think. As a small company they have to make choices as far as what their CS resources can spend time doing. They have to put barriers to the time spent on such things otherwise actual support issues and or development couldn't done (or they'd over hire, become non-profitable, and the game tanks). I see more validity in the argument that they should support for all or support it for none. However since 100% of their revenue is micro transactions and most likely only a small percent spend a lot and an even smaller extent spend a ton they make exceptions for those players that spend enough that losing their business would hurt.All that to say you can spout all day how easy it is and they should just grant any request that comes buy, but at the end of the day they are a business with limited resources and they have to choose how to spend those resources effectively to keep the game running and profitable. To make a parallel let's say your roster was full of sentient characters. If 1* Spider-Man makes a mistake that would cost you 1000 ISO to fix and there was a reasonable likelihood that more characters would make that same mistake, would you be willing to sacrifice your gameplay to accommodate them? Even if 1* Spider-Man just deleted himself from your roster would that kill your gameplay? Conversely if L500 Gambit made the same mistake for 1000 ISO it would probably be worth it to you to keep him from deleting itself. These are the kinds of decisions Demi's management has to make to keep the game going. For better or for worse.
DaBeast911 said:@d90I sympathize with you and agree 100%. It takes no extra work to restore your 5 star, people have had it done before. I've seen entire rosters deleted on a video and then miraculously restored so restoring a character is a minor feat. It would be such a big deal if it is was a 3 star or heck even a 4 star but those 5 stars are extremely rare to come by and then to accidentally sell one is deflating. A year ago, restoring it wouldn't have been a problem, I sold a fully covered 266 Storm and had it restored, no problem. They simply looked at my roster the day before I sold it, saw it was there and replaced it. Heck, they even let me keep the ISO, which I was shocked by. I sympathize with you and hope that it works out.
broll said: d90 said: Look I get what you're all saying. The "be more careful" lines are all well and good, but I maintain that I didn't sell it. The way the UI is designed, you could put the phone in your pocket and buy stuff just by the phone going around in your pocket. Even if they, with all finality, say no, at least a little more light is shed in this situation. What id like to see, is a better system for selling high level characters. Many games require you to physically type the word delete or sell to do those actions. A 2yo could grab your phone and hose 2-3 years worth of game time. . . A confirm button is not enough for 5*. How many confirmation buttons is enough? The confirmation button exists to prevent these accidental sales, while it's not impossible to to still sell from a pocket push, it's pretty unlikely that the two precise button presses happen to facilitate that. Add to that the fact that it sounds like you're saying this has happened to you twice now seems pretty unlikely. Also locking your phone with password or bio-metric before pocketing it would go a long way towards stopping this also.Also as stated someone else (2 year old or not) grabbing your phone and effecting your game is also on you. Lock your phone. It's on you if you leave an unlocked phone in reach of a 2 year old or any other human without supervision. I hope you can get your Strange back, but if you do or don't you need to learn from your mistake or be doomed to keep repeating it.
d90 said: Look I get what you're all saying. The "be more careful" lines are all well and good, but I maintain that I didn't sell it. The way the UI is designed, you could put the phone in your pocket and buy stuff just by the phone going around in your pocket. Even if they, with all finality, say no, at least a little more light is shed in this situation. What id like to see, is a better system for selling high level characters. Many games require you to physically type the word delete or sell to do those actions. A 2yo could grab your phone and hose 2-3 years worth of game time. . . A confirm button is not enough for 5*.
Beta-Ray Bill said: broll said: d90 said: Look I get what you're all saying. The "be more careful" lines are all well and good, but I maintain that I didn't sell it. The way the UI is designed, you could put the phone in your pocket and buy stuff just by the phone going around in your pocket. Even if they, with all finality, say no, at least a little more light is shed in this situation. What id like to see, is a better system for selling high level characters. Many games require you to physically type the word delete or sell to do those actions. A 2yo could grab your phone and hose 2-3 years worth of game time. . . A confirm button is not enough for 5*. How many confirmation buttons is enough? The confirmation button exists to prevent these accidental sales, while it's not impossible to to still sell from a pocket push, it's pretty unlikely that the two precise button presses happen to facilitate that. Add to that the fact that it sounds like you're saying this has happened to you twice now seems pretty unlikely. Also locking your phone with password or bio-metric before pocketing it would go a long way towards stopping this also.Also as stated someone else (2 year old or not) grabbing your phone and effecting your game is also on you. Lock your phone. It's on you if you leave an unlocked phone in reach of a 2 year old or any other human without supervision. I hope you can get your Strange back, but if you do or don't you need to learn from your mistake or be doomed to keep repeating it. You obviously don’t have kids lol. Lock your phone isn’t an option in some families. The excuse of “sorry hun, but I locked my phone so our son couldn’t sell my video game roster” will NEVER fly. It’s suspicious in relationships to change stuff like that. Gives an impression you’re hiding things just so you can not worry about your phone games lol
NotBAMF said: Beta-Ray Bill said: broll said: d90 said: Look I get what you're all saying. The "be more careful" lines are all well and good, but I maintain that I didn't sell it. The way the UI is designed, you could put the phone in your pocket and buy stuff just by the phone going around in your pocket. Even if they, with all finality, say no, at least a little more light is shed in this situation. What id like to see, is a better system for selling high level characters. Many games require you to physically type the word delete or sell to do those actions. A 2yo could grab your phone and hose 2-3 years worth of game time. . . A confirm button is not enough for 5*. How many confirmation buttons is enough? The confirmation button exists to prevent these accidental sales, while it's not impossible to to still sell from a pocket push, it's pretty unlikely that the two precise button presses happen to facilitate that. Add to that the fact that it sounds like you're saying this has happened to you twice now seems pretty unlikely. Also locking your phone with password or bio-metric before pocketing it would go a long way towards stopping this also.Also as stated someone else (2 year old or not) grabbing your phone and effecting your game is also on you. Lock your phone. It's on you if you leave an unlocked phone in reach of a 2 year old or any other human without supervision. I hope you can get your Strange back, but if you do or don't you need to learn from your mistake or be doomed to keep repeating it. You obviously don’t have kids lol. Lock your phone isn’t an option in some families. The excuse of “sorry hun, but I locked my phone so our son couldn’t sell my video game roster” will NEVER fly. It’s suspicious in relationships to change stuff like that. Gives an impression you’re hiding things just so you can not worry about your phone games lol If your relationship is so unstable that this completely viable thing to do would instantly create tension and suspicion, you are in an unhealthy relationship.
Beta-Ray Bill said: NotBAMF said: Beta-Ray Bill said: broll said: d90 said: Look I get what you're all saying. The "be more careful" lines are all well and good, but I maintain that I didn't sell it. The way the UI is designed, you could put the phone in your pocket and buy stuff just by the phone going around in your pocket. Even if they, with all finality, say no, at least a little more light is shed in this situation. What id like to see, is a better system for selling high level characters. Many games require you to physically type the word delete or sell to do those actions. A 2yo could grab your phone and hose 2-3 years worth of game time. . . A confirm button is not enough for 5*. How many confirmation buttons is enough? The confirmation button exists to prevent these accidental sales, while it's not impossible to to still sell from a pocket push, it's pretty unlikely that the two precise button presses happen to facilitate that. Add to that the fact that it sounds like you're saying this has happened to you twice now seems pretty unlikely. Also locking your phone with password or bio-metric before pocketing it would go a long way towards stopping this also.Also as stated someone else (2 year old or not) grabbing your phone and effecting your game is also on you. Lock your phone. It's on you if you leave an unlocked phone in reach of a 2 year old or any other human without supervision. I hope you can get your Strange back, but if you do or don't you need to learn from your mistake or be doomed to keep repeating it. You obviously don’t have kids lol. Lock your phone isn’t an option in some families. The excuse of “sorry hun, but I locked my phone so our son couldn’t sell my video game roster” will NEVER fly. It’s suspicious in relationships to change stuff like that. Gives an impression you’re hiding things just so you can not worry about your phone games lol If your relationship is so unstable that this completely viable thing to do would instantly create tension and suspicion, you are in an unhealthy relationship. Not completely true. Just because someone has issues against not being open doesn’t mean your relationship is unhealthy and unstable.maybe your relationship stays healthy and stable by not having locked phones and having the idea there is nothing to hide
moss04 said: Beta-Ray Bill said: NotBAMF said: Beta-Ray Bill said: broll said: d90 said: Look I get what you're all saying. The "be more careful" lines are all well and good, but I maintain that I didn't sell it. The way the UI is designed, you could put the phone in your pocket and buy stuff just by the phone going around in your pocket. Even if they, with all finality, say no, at least a little more light is shed in this situation. What id like to see, is a better system for selling high level characters. Many games require you to physically type the word delete or sell to do those actions. A 2yo could grab your phone and hose 2-3 years worth of game time. . . A confirm button is not enough for 5*. How many confirmation buttons is enough? The confirmation button exists to prevent these accidental sales, while it's not impossible to to still sell from a pocket push, it's pretty unlikely that the two precise button presses happen to facilitate that. Add to that the fact that it sounds like you're saying this has happened to you twice now seems pretty unlikely. Also locking your phone with password or bio-metric before pocketing it would go a long way towards stopping this also.Also as stated someone else (2 year old or not) grabbing your phone and effecting your game is also on you. Lock your phone. It's on you if you leave an unlocked phone in reach of a 2 year old or any other human without supervision. I hope you can get your Strange back, but if you do or don't you need to learn from your mistake or be doomed to keep repeating it. You obviously don’t have kids lol. Lock your phone isn’t an option in some families. The excuse of “sorry hun, but I locked my phone so our son couldn’t sell my video game roster” will NEVER fly. It’s suspicious in relationships to change stuff like that. Gives an impression you’re hiding things just so you can not worry about your phone games lol If your relationship is so unstable that this completely viable thing to do would instantly create tension and suspicion, you are in an unhealthy relationship. Not completely true. Just because someone has issues against not being open doesn’t mean your relationship is unhealthy and unstable.maybe your relationship stays healthy and stable by not having locked phones and having the idea there is nothing to hide Why not lock the phone and give the overly paranoid girlfriend the code??
The rockett said:Example 1: A video was oisted of a 500+ roster and he raged quit about 3 weeks ago. Sold everything due to Gambit. Resolution: Roster restored fully. Example 2: 460 5* roster rage sold due to 15 dupe BB covers and CS not helping out because he could not pull the one darn color he needed. 2 weeks ago. Resolution: Roster restored fully. Rolled back 1 week. Example 3: 500+ roster had major FB saving issues. Entire account gone. Resolution: Account fixed and was very well compensated. Example 4: 500+ roster locked out due to FB saving error. This was end of last season. Resolution: Account fix BUT he got no end of season rewards personal or ally. Got no other compensation. Example 5: Account got its 4th time 1 time exception of a cover swap for another 5*.
i received a 4* star lord cover from a 3* gamora champ level. the cover didn't go into my cover cue. it applied itself directly onto my 4* star lord. i checked with cs and they confirmed i 'used' the cover. i'm pretty sure they track things well enough to figure out what happened. a roll back or full restore should be done. any one of us would hope it would be if it happened to us.
mega ghost said: Assuming we have the full story, I think it's absurd that CS wouldn't fix this in a heartbeat. Give him his character back, remove any ISO and HP he got for accidentally selling it, and that's that. It's an easy win for CS, and it keeps a paying customer happy. This isn't a situation of "I sold a character I didn't like for roster space and resources and now I'm regretting it," it was an extremely unfortunate accident that they can rectify with minimal effort and there's no reason they shouldn't do it.
Treras said: The rockett said:Example 1: A video was oisted of a 500+ roster and he raged quit about 3 weeks ago. Sold everything due to Gambit. Resolution: Roster restored fully. Example 2: 460 5* roster rage sold due to 15 dupe BB covers and CS not helping out because he could not pull the one darn color he needed. 2 weeks ago. Resolution: Roster restored fully. Rolled back 1 week. Example 3: 500+ roster had major FB saving issues. Entire account gone. Resolution: Account fixed and was very well compensated. Example 4: 500+ roster locked out due to FB saving error. This was end of last season. Resolution: Account fix BUT he got no end of season rewards personal or ally. Got no other compensation. Example 5: Account got its 4th time 1 time exception of a cover swap for another 5*. All of the above. As someone else said it, D90 is still far from platinum level. #restorestrange
MacEifer said: Treras said: The rockett said:Example 1: A video was oisted of a 500+ roster and he raged quit about 3 weeks ago. Sold everything due to Gambit. Resolution: Roster restored fully. Example 2: 460 5* roster rage sold due to 15 dupe BB covers and CS not helping out because he could not pull the one darn color he needed. 2 weeks ago. Resolution: Roster restored fully. Rolled back 1 week. Example 3: 500+ roster had major FB saving issues. Entire account gone. Resolution: Account fixed and was very well compensated. Example 4: 500+ roster locked out due to FB saving error. This was end of last season. Resolution: Account fix BUT he got no end of season rewards personal or ally. Got no other compensation. Example 5: Account got its 4th time 1 time exception of a cover swap for another 5*. All of the above. As someone else said it, D90 is still far from platinum level. #restorestrange The problem there is that that's not how you can run customer support.
Ducky said: DaBeast911 said: fight4thedream said: **Mod Mode: ON**While I do sympathize with d90's situation, posting private messages either from the forum or emails from CS is a violation of rule 7. Please refrain from doing so in the future. Thank you.**Mod Mode: OFF**On a more personal note, I hope you are able to get your 5* Strange back. Rule 7 says:7. Treat your fellow users kindly. We will not tolerate any of the following;Trolling, or posting something just to get a rise out of someone.Flaming, or insulting / bashing / harassing another user.Posting offensive material. This includes anything that could be considered racially, religiously, or sexually demeaning or insulting. Posting a link to material of this nature is equally forbidden.Offensive or profane forum user names.Posting threatening material of any kind.Referencing specific player names, for instance, in order to question in-game actions, or accuse of cheating (this includes nicknames and acronyms)Congratulation posts [and the mentioning of other players] are permitted as long as they are done in a sincere and respectful manner. However, in the event that the player being mentioned is not comfortable with the post, they have the right to request the post or their name be removed. Please contact a moderator with your request.Acting like a jerk.Posting content from private messagesThere is nothing regarding posting an email between yourself and customer service. The rules need to be amended to include emails if that's what's to be interpreted. That's because he techincally broke rules 7 and 8. If you had read the rules, the next rule states:8. We reserve the right to delete any material that we deem inappropriate for our forums, including, but not limited to:Offensive topicsOffensive profile avatarsAdvocating cheatingHack linksInsulting othersSpoilersData-mined or misleading informationCustomer Support ticket conversationsEtc.
DaBeast911 said: fight4thedream said: **Mod Mode: ON**While I do sympathize with d90's situation, posting private messages either from the forum or emails from CS is a violation of rule 7. Please refrain from doing so in the future. Thank you.**Mod Mode: OFF**On a more personal note, I hope you are able to get your 5* Strange back. Rule 7 says:7. Treat your fellow users kindly. We will not tolerate any of the following;Trolling, or posting something just to get a rise out of someone.Flaming, or insulting / bashing / harassing another user.Posting offensive material. This includes anything that could be considered racially, religiously, or sexually demeaning or insulting. Posting a link to material of this nature is equally forbidden.Offensive or profane forum user names.Posting threatening material of any kind.Referencing specific player names, for instance, in order to question in-game actions, or accuse of cheating (this includes nicknames and acronyms)Congratulation posts [and the mentioning of other players] are permitted as long as they are done in a sincere and respectful manner. However, in the event that the player being mentioned is not comfortable with the post, they have the right to request the post or their name be removed. Please contact a moderator with your request.Acting like a jerk.Posting content from private messagesThere is nothing regarding posting an email between yourself and customer service. The rules need to be amended to include emails if that's what's to be interpreted.
fight4thedream said: **Mod Mode: ON**While I do sympathize with d90's situation, posting private messages either from the forum or emails from CS is a violation of rule 7. Please refrain from doing so in the future. Thank you.**Mod Mode: OFF**On a more personal note, I hope you are able to get your 5* Strange back.
Alsmir said: Ducky said: DaBeast911 said: fight4thedream said: **Mod Mode: ON**While I do sympathize with d90's situation, posting private messages either from the forum or emails from CS is a violation of rule 7. Please refrain from doing so in the future. Thank you.**Mod Mode: OFF**On a more personal note, I hope you are able to get your 5* Strange back. Rule 7 says:7. Treat your fellow users kindly. We will not tolerate any of the following;Trolling, or posting something just to get a rise out of someone.Flaming, or insulting / bashing / harassing another user.Posting offensive material. This includes anything that could be considered racially, religiously, or sexually demeaning or insulting. Posting a link to material of this nature is equally forbidden.Offensive or profane forum user names.Posting threatening material of any kind.Referencing specific player names, for instance, in order to question in-game actions, or accuse of cheating (this includes nicknames and acronyms)Congratulation posts [and the mentioning of other players] are permitted as long as they are done in a sincere and respectful manner. However, in the event that the player being mentioned is not comfortable with the post, they have the right to request the post or their name be removed. Please contact a moderator with your request.Acting like a jerk.Posting content from private messagesThere is nothing regarding posting an email between yourself and customer service. The rules need to be amended to include emails if that's what's to be interpreted. That's because he techincally broke rules 7 and 8. If you had read the rules, the next rule states:8. We reserve the right to delete any material that we deem inappropriate for our forums, including, but not limited to:Offensive topicsOffensive profile avatarsAdvocating cheatingHack linksInsulting othersSpoilersData-mined or misleading informationCustomer Support ticket conversationsEtc. Ah, the glorious rule #8 which can be translated to: "We do whatever we want".