therightwaye said: Re evaluated my simple Gambit fix:Add AP gain to each color it charges for. No more Gambatt. (ie red covers for red ap gain, etc)Black becomes "Charged defense" - Gambit takes "less damage %" for damage over X. When this happens, put CD tile out that lessens damage Gambit does by "less damage %". And lower Gambit HP. Because 5bit is OP.I think with that you get a less OP Gambit who is still probably top tier but not as much. And you remove "unintentional" Gambatt (who I love using)
aesthetocyst said: So.....who's running unbuffed Gambit instead of buffed Hawkeye this PvE? Anyone?Anyone?Oh yeah, me.
Welcome Death said: therightwaye said: Re evaluated my simple Gambit fix:Add AP gain to each color it charges for. No more Gambatt. (ie red covers for red ap gain, etc)Black becomes "Charged defense" - Gambit takes "less damage %" for damage over X. When this happens, put CD tile out that lessens damage Gambit does by "less damage %". And lower Gambit HP. Because 5bit is OP.I think with that you get a less OP Gambit who is still probably top tier but not as much. And you remove "unintentional" Gambatt (who I love using) So, keep the AP gain and also give him a BP style defense against attacks? So he needs a buff cause he sucks in his current state?
LifeofAgony said: There’s not a single team I would avoid other than 550s, and even then I have hit them - people who have 550s are running 450 gambits - this is an absolute joke.Dont talk about high level game play if you’re not in the pool to understand how it actually works. I recognize a many number of names in this thread, and I can assure the nerf gambit camp has nothing to do with being “touched” by gambits.
sambrookjm said: Welcome Death said: Why do people keep saying Thanos was considered OP upon release? This is just not true. Thanos was considered garbage upon release. I remember that...Thanos was considered garbage mainly because his Court Death did more total damage to your own team than it did to the enemy team at LVLs 1-4, I believe. It switched back at LVL 5, but there was still a LOT of self-hurt from his Court Death ability. Once that got switched around, and that happened relatively quickly (much quicker than the length of time Gambit's been busted), he improved greatly.
Welcome Death said: Why do people keep saying Thanos was considered OP upon release? This is just not true. Thanos was considered garbage upon release.
Why do people keep saying Thanos was considered OP upon release? This is just not true. Thanos was considered garbage upon release.
madoctor said: sambrookjm said: Welcome Death said: Why do people keep saying Thanos was considered OP upon release? This is just not true. Thanos was considered garbage upon release. I remember that...Thanos was considered garbage mainly because his Court Death did more total damage to your own team than it did to the enemy team at LVLs 1-4, I believe. It switched back at LVL 5, but there was still a LOT of self-hurt from his Court Death ability. Once that got switched around, and that happened relatively quickly (much quicker than the length of time Gambit's been busted), he improved greatly. The one you are talking about who was changed was 3* thanos. We are talking about 5* Thanos whose numbers weren't changed.I see many forumites and users here posting who "threatened to quit the game" if the OML nerf wasn't reversed. If you don't get the sarcasm in their posts then I don't know what to say.Nerf Thanos and I'd be fine with Gambit nerf (Note - do not have have a Gambit but soon going to champ Thanos). Anyways this is moot since Gambit won't be getting a nerf. Thanos is anyways first in line. Some whale thinks Hawkeye is OP.Adapt and survive IMO.
PenniesForEveryone said: madoctor said: sambrookjm said: Welcome Death said: Why do people keep saying Thanos was considered OP upon release? This is just not true. Thanos was considered garbage upon release. I remember that...Thanos was considered garbage mainly because his Court Death did more total damage to your own team than it did to the enemy team at LVLs 1-4, I believe. It switched back at LVL 5, but there was still a LOT of self-hurt from his Court Death ability. Once that got switched around, and that happened relatively quickly (much quicker than the length of time Gambit's been busted), he improved greatly. The one you are talking about who was changed was 3* thanos. We are talking about 5* Thanos whose numbers weren't changed.I see many forumites and users here posting who "threatened to quit the game" if the OML nerf wasn't reversed. If you don't get the sarcasm in their posts then I don't know what to say.Nerf Thanos and I'd be fine with Gambit nerf (Note - do not have have a Gambit but soon going to champ Thanos). Anyways this is moot since Gambit won't be getting a nerf. Thanos is anyways first in line. Some whale thinks Hawkeye is OP.Adapt and survive IMO. It's not about "surviving" it's about creating a unique and diverse gaming experience for everyone. When you just about HAVE to have Gambit to counter Gambit the meta gets old and tired REALLY quickly. We've spent years building diverse 5* rosters only to have most of them sent off to pasture in favor of the one new OP character that is all but required to successfully compete at the highest level. What is this Diverse 5 list that is getting played? At the highest level are more characters viable in pvp? In pve the fast clearing team will always be played for optimization. But in pvp the only thing I was seeing before gambit was blackbolt and some variation of these two thanos/panther hawkeye/coluson teams.Like I've said before since gambit dropped I've seen gambit+ an array of characters. Yes gambit is the common factor but its still way more varied than it was before he dropped. So i'm confused, because it beginning to sound like gambit is actually only a problem for the tip top upper echelon of players with maxed or high level 5's.
PenniesForEveryone said: madoctor said: sambrookjm said: Welcome Death said: Why do people keep saying Thanos was considered OP upon release? This is just not true. Thanos was considered garbage upon release. I remember that...Thanos was considered garbage mainly because his Court Death did more total damage to your own team than it did to the enemy team at LVLs 1-4, I believe. It switched back at LVL 5, but there was still a LOT of self-hurt from his Court Death ability. Once that got switched around, and that happened relatively quickly (much quicker than the length of time Gambit's been busted), he improved greatly. The one you are talking about who was changed was 3* thanos. We are talking about 5* Thanos whose numbers weren't changed.I see many forumites and users here posting who "threatened to quit the game" if the OML nerf wasn't reversed. If you don't get the sarcasm in their posts then I don't know what to say.Nerf Thanos and I'd be fine with Gambit nerf (Note - do not have have a Gambit but soon going to champ Thanos). Anyways this is moot since Gambit won't be getting a nerf. Thanos is anyways first in line. Some whale thinks Hawkeye is OP.Adapt and survive IMO. It's not about "surviving" it's about creating a unique and diverse gaming experience for everyone. When you just about HAVE to have Gambit to counter Gambit the meta gets old and tired REALLY quickly. We've spent years building diverse 5* rosters only to have most of them sent off to pasture in favor of the one new OP character that is all but required to successfully compete at the highest level.
thedarkphoenix said: PenniesForEveryone said: madoctor said: sambrookjm said: Welcome Death said: Why do people keep saying Thanos was considered OP upon release? This is just not true. Thanos was considered garbage upon release. I remember that...Thanos was considered garbage mainly because his Court Death did more total damage to your own team than it did to the enemy team at LVLs 1-4, I believe. It switched back at LVL 5, but there was still a LOT of self-hurt from his Court Death ability. Once that got switched around, and that happened relatively quickly (much quicker than the length of time Gambit's been busted), he improved greatly. The one you are talking about who was changed was 3* thanos. We are talking about 5* Thanos whose numbers weren't changed.I see many forumites and users here posting who "threatened to quit the game" if the OML nerf wasn't reversed. If you don't get the sarcasm in their posts then I don't know what to say.Nerf Thanos and I'd be fine with Gambit nerf (Note - do not have have a Gambit but soon going to champ Thanos). Anyways this is moot since Gambit won't be getting a nerf. Thanos is anyways first in line. Some whale thinks Hawkeye is OP.Adapt and survive IMO. It's not about "surviving" it's about creating a unique and diverse gaming experience for everyone. When you just about HAVE to have Gambit to counter Gambit the meta gets old and tired REALLY quickly. We've spent years building diverse 5* rosters only to have most of them sent off to pasture in favor of the one new OP character that is all but required to successfully compete at the highest level. What is this Diverse 5 list that is getting played? At the highest level are more characters viable in pvp? In pve the fast clearing team will always be played for optimization. But in pvp the only thing I was seeing before gambit was blackbolt and some variation of these two thanos/panther hawkeye/coluson teams.Like I've said before since gambit dropped I've seen gambit+ an array of characters. Yes gambit is the common factor but its still way more varied than it was before he dropped. So i'm confused, because it beginning to sound like gambit is actually only a problem for the tip top upper echelon of players with maxed or high level 5's.