Vhailorx said: Tony foot: are in 5* land? 1 critical tile match or cascade can easily do 10k or more damage. 5* play is pretty hard on the healthpacks, especially in pvp.
corytutor said: Appeal to the little guy. But dont do it in a manner that affects the long term player drastically.
Warbringa said: Picking when to play, what slice, what cl, when to hop, who to hit, cycling for good qs, hopping fast, when to shield - this is called strategy. Your logic is flawed. We do play this game because we love it. So there is the issue. They are changing what we love. I'm a bit of a broken record but this is what I'm saying about this being a newer version of pve. They are taking the versus out of versus. PvP is now like PvE with just worse rewards (basically no CP for almost entire player base). I guarantee that I can earn better rewards in less time playing a 3 or 4 day PvE at SCL 7 than having to win 40 matches in 2 days against Gamorra, Grocket and Medusa. Maybe devs hope health pack purchases will increase significantly!
Picking when to play, what slice, what cl, when to hop, who to hit, cycling for good qs, hopping fast, when to shield - this is called strategy. Your logic is flawed. We do play this game because we love it. So there is the issue. They are changing what we love. I'm a bit of a broken record but this is what I'm saying about this being a newer version of pve. They are taking the versus out of versus.
GrumpySmurf1002 said: corytutor said: I understand theres many below me. Theres also many above me. And to clarify i didnt say i wasnt in the top tier of players. Im simply saying 3 to 6 champs isnt a top roster. I too have 6 champs. You're overestimating how many players have more. It's maybe 0.1%, 0.2% of the player base, tops.
corytutor said: I understand theres many below me. Theres also many above me. And to clarify i didnt say i wasnt in the top tier of players. Im simply saying 3 to 6 champs isnt a top roster.
Meander said: Vhailorx said: Jarvind said: Meander said: tiomono said So I'm copping out, and whiny? 70% of the replies in this topic have been whiny. I was not whining but expressing my happiness over a change. Let me be happy. Yes. Using your wife and kids as an excuse is a cop out. Holy smokes, dude. Did you like, read that after you typed it? That's some serious addict mentality. I don't think meander meant that responsibilities to family aren't important. Just that a player using family as a prop to justify something that is basically unrelated to family is inappropriate. This. I'm not saying don't have a wife and kids or don't give them the time they deserve. In fact, please do. I do. I know many family men in big alliances. I'm saying don't dishonor them by using them as a strawman excuse to why you can't play the game. To me it comes off as dishonest, and the IMPLICATION (all caps because people on this forum apparently don't understand subtext) is that people who have reached the rewards previously don't have the responsibilities that you do. Thus the "nerds" comment. You never said it. You implied it. Subtext is key in writing.
Vhailorx said: Jarvind said: Meander said: tiomono said So I'm copping out, and whiny? 70% of the replies in this topic have been whiny. I was not whining but expressing my happiness over a change. Let me be happy. Yes. Using your wife and kids as an excuse is a cop out. Holy smokes, dude. Did you like, read that after you typed it? That's some serious addict mentality. I don't think meander meant that responsibilities to family aren't important. Just that a player using family as a prop to justify something that is basically unrelated to family is inappropriate.
Jarvind said: Meander said: tiomono said So I'm copping out, and whiny? 70% of the replies in this topic have been whiny. I was not whining but expressing my happiness over a change. Let me be happy. Yes. Using your wife and kids as an excuse is a cop out. Holy smokes, dude. Did you like, read that after you typed it? That's some serious addict mentality.
Meander said: tiomono said So I'm copping out, and whiny? 70% of the replies in this topic have been whiny. I was not whining but expressing my happiness over a change. Let me be happy. Yes. Using your wife and kids as an excuse is a cop out.
tiomono said So I'm copping out, and whiny? 70% of the replies in this topic have been whiny. I was not whining but expressing my happiness over a change. Let me be happy.
Nick441234 said: When does the new season begin exactly?
Tredo said: Is it possible that their real reason for doing this is to reduce the cooperation between players? If the bulk of cp is now only available through placement, it stands to reason that the devs want a more competitive game. If players can't join forces to get the bulk of their friends to the 15 cp, it might lead to less out of game communication. Thoughts?
ursopro said: Nick441234 said: When does the new season begin exactly? Tomorrow
Spudgutter said: Warbringa said: Picking when to play, what slice, what cl, when to hop, who to hit, cycling for good qs, hopping fast, when to shield - this is called strategy. Your logic is flawed. We do play this game because we love it. So there is the issue. They are changing what we love. I'm a bit of a broken record but this is what I'm saying about this being a newer version of pve. They are taking the versus out of versus. PvP is now like PvE with just worse rewards (basically no CP for almost entire player base). I guarantee that I can earn better rewards in less time playing a 3 or 4 day PvE at SCL 7 than having to win 40 matches in 2 days against Gamorra, Grocket and Medusa. Maybe devs hope health pack purchases will increase significantly! This is another thing that got me thinking...how many high end players do we hear from that say they play scl6, 7 and 8 to save time and get top rewards?Scl9 gives 10(i think) cp more than 8 just in total rewards, not including daily, so that has to be even less as it goes down the chain.I dont mean to assume, but if you are mad about this cp change, but don't play scl9, isn't that a little hypocritical?
Brigby said: ronin-san said: -snipped for clarity-Orion said: Brigby, I would love for you to get a developer on here so they can explain the logic behind awarding the 15 CP to only the top 10 of CL6-CL8. Normally, I can understand the logic, even if I don't agree with it. But this I can't figure out. You are taking 15 CP away from rosters that could get to 1200 but not make top 10 and giving it to whom? For those rosters, the CP is the only way to progress in the game. If my progression is slowed down by too much, then what incentive do I have to keep playing? I don't know the exact reasoning, but I'll inquire with the developers, and provide info once I hear back from them. So without concrete information as to the why, you walked into an already quarreling senate, donned your gas mask, pulled the pin, and said, "We'll have a chat on the morrow, lads".My kids get upset when I tell them to do something they don't like, and don't first get an explanation as to why.Exactly what was the outcome you expected, when you dropped in to sprinkle in dissent, and dashed out?This is freaking childish, Brigs. Shame on you, and shame on your manager, who advised you to do this. Incomplete information caused a craptonne of dissent. No matter what side of the fence you're on regarding this change, the way this was handled was tactless. Enjoy your "How are we doing" Surveymonkey comments. I'm afraid my original comment may have appeared a bit disengenuous. The original reason for this implementation was because the developers determined there would actually be more players that achieved the CP reward if put in placement, than if they tried to acquire it in progression.The reason I said that I didn't know the exact reasoning in the above comment, was more so that I wanted to reaffirm with the developers if this was still the case, after reviewing the results of the test. I apologize for the confusion.
ronin-san said: -snipped for clarity-Orion said: Brigby, I would love for you to get a developer on here so they can explain the logic behind awarding the 15 CP to only the top 10 of CL6-CL8. Normally, I can understand the logic, even if I don't agree with it. But this I can't figure out. You are taking 15 CP away from rosters that could get to 1200 but not make top 10 and giving it to whom? For those rosters, the CP is the only way to progress in the game. If my progression is slowed down by too much, then what incentive do I have to keep playing? I don't know the exact reasoning, but I'll inquire with the developers, and provide info once I hear back from them. So without concrete information as to the why, you walked into an already quarreling senate, donned your gas mask, pulled the pin, and said, "We'll have a chat on the morrow, lads".My kids get upset when I tell them to do something they don't like, and don't first get an explanation as to why.Exactly what was the outcome you expected, when you dropped in to sprinkle in dissent, and dashed out?This is freaking childish, Brigs. Shame on you, and shame on your manager, who advised you to do this. Incomplete information caused a craptonne of dissent. No matter what side of the fence you're on regarding this change, the way this was handled was tactless. Enjoy your "How are we doing" Surveymonkey comments.
-snipped for clarity-Orion said: Brigby, I would love for you to get a developer on here so they can explain the logic behind awarding the 15 CP to only the top 10 of CL6-CL8. Normally, I can understand the logic, even if I don't agree with it. But this I can't figure out. You are taking 15 CP away from rosters that could get to 1200 but not make top 10 and giving it to whom? For those rosters, the CP is the only way to progress in the game. If my progression is slowed down by too much, then what incentive do I have to keep playing? I don't know the exact reasoning, but I'll inquire with the developers, and provide info once I hear back from them.
Orion said: Brigby, I would love for you to get a developer on here so they can explain the logic behind awarding the 15 CP to only the top 10 of CL6-CL8. Normally, I can understand the logic, even if I don't agree with it. But this I can't figure out. You are taking 15 CP away from rosters that could get to 1200 but not make top 10 and giving it to whom? For those rosters, the CP is the only way to progress in the game. If my progression is slowed down by too much, then what incentive do I have to keep playing?
OJSP said: D4Ni13 said:I certainly don't try to defend them. You could've fooled me. I thought we need to stand behind the game just like we support our football team through the good and the bad?
D4Ni13 said:I certainly don't try to defend them.