JHawkInc said: People who keep complaining about the testing really have absolutely no idea what is required in software testing. The increased smack-talk towards the devs is frustrating, and isn't helping the situation at all.
They may very well have no idea, but it doesn't change the fact that if you look at the problems, how repeatable and pervasive they are, not goofy edge cases... even the cheapest automated testing would have caught most of em...
That's to say nothing of the fact that they have a very testable application from the user end... the AI seems to be totally deterministic, with some time they could automate simulated AI v AI games with every 1v1 combination in parallel using the same seed and just report discrepancies with the results when compared to the last run...
People **** on testers/developers all the time, they're rarely justified, but sometimes they're right.
Bowgentle said: JHawkInc said: People who keep complaining about the testing really have absolutely no idea what is required in software testing. The increased smack-talk towards the devs is frustrating, and isn't helping the situation at all. You don't think checking if an update deletes the save game on a major platform before rolling it out is reasonable, then?
WRIGHT3OUS said: I do know that not one update in the close to 3 years I have been playing this game has gone smoothly.
SNKAllen said: How long of a wait are we talking about for a fix? Hours, Days or I dare say a week? Anyone that has encountered a similar problem before remember how long?
gimmer said: I'm amongst the affected.is anyone else seeing stuff like this in their game?//Removed Image Displaying Debug Text -Brigby @Brigby The removed image was showing the debug text of a pretty outdated version (somewhere between R74 and R78 if i saw correct). Maybe, something that was changed in that update could have something to do with some of the bugs this game is experiencing?
gimmer said: I'm amongst the affected.is anyone else seeing stuff like this in their game?//Removed Image Displaying Debug Text -Brigby
Ezrius said: @Brigby I updated before reading this, but since updating the game never loads and gets stuck at "Check Internet Connection" (even though my connection is fine).should I be fine if I just wait for another patch before trying to play? Pretty frustrating to miss out on a R&G cover, but it would be more frustrating to lose 700+ days of progress, I suppose.
sinnerjfl said: How does this even happen, I really wonder... someone or some software tested the update no?Save data being unavailable is not enough of a massive bug to NOT push the update?Or did you see that the update broke stuff yet pushed it anyway? I dont understand.
JHawkInc said:Odds are high that it worked fine on the architecture it was tested on, and they had no idea it was going to encounter catastrophic failure before it went live.I believe that assuming they did it deliberately with literally zero information to support your claim is not a reasonable response, and isn't helpful and meaningful way to contribute. I believe malicious negligence, seeing a problem and doing nothing about it, is way less likely than the complex nature of computing software creating unexpected problems.