raisinbman wrote: Vhailorx wrote: I have heard all of the arguments from those who don't seem to mind this higher bomb damage (e.g. pylgrim, dauthi, lerysh, etc). And I have to say that I still don't find this setup very fun. It's entirely feast or famine, either a total wipe, or a near-perfect victory (or sometimes a 2/3 perfect victory with one character sacrificed to a stray bomb). Strategy and playstyle do affect the likelihood of victory (it's important to play so as to minimize the rate of bomb-fall, and it's essential to bring characters that can control the board), but sometimes bombs are just unavoidable, or the board has no viable matches after ultron destroys a level, leading to a board shuffle that places bombs on the bottom. I find that sort of dumb luck irritating. Wouldn't it be better to have two or three times as many bombs falling, but doing 1/2 or 1/3 of the damage? more bombs would be avoided by skill and strategy, but poor luck wouldn't mean insta-death, and it would require more resource management from the player (do you take a bomb hit on my tank, who will survive, but will be hurt for the next match, or a sacrificial support, who will die and need a health pack?). It seems to me that such an arrangement would have the same damage output (and thus project a similar threat level), while feeling less hit-or-miss. It might also feel more puzzle-y. nah, feels plenty puzzly too me. Sometimes you win at solitaire, sometimes you lose
Vhailorx wrote: I have heard all of the arguments from those who don't seem to mind this higher bomb damage (e.g. pylgrim, dauthi, lerysh, etc). And I have to say that I still don't find this setup very fun. It's entirely feast or famine, either a total wipe, or a near-perfect victory (or sometimes a 2/3 perfect victory with one character sacrificed to a stray bomb). Strategy and playstyle do affect the likelihood of victory (it's important to play so as to minimize the rate of bomb-fall, and it's essential to bring characters that can control the board), but sometimes bombs are just unavoidable, or the board has no viable matches after ultron destroys a level, leading to a board shuffle that places bombs on the bottom. I find that sort of dumb luck irritating. Wouldn't it be better to have two or three times as many bombs falling, but doing 1/2 or 1/3 of the damage? more bombs would be avoided by skill and strategy, but poor luck wouldn't mean insta-death, and it would require more resource management from the player (do you take a bomb hit on my tank, who will survive, but will be hurt for the next match, or a sacrificial support, who will die and need a health pack?). It seems to me that such an arrangement would have the same damage output (and thus project a similar threat level), while feeling less hit-or-miss. It might also feel more puzzle-y.
GurlBYE wrote: Imagine how this event is for people without highly leveled 3 or 4 stars. The idea is cool and all but pretty much all parts of the even don't work with bejeweled type game play.
MarvelMan wrote: GurlBYE wrote: Imagine how this event is for people without highly leveled 3 or 4 stars. The idea is cool and all but pretty much all parts of the even don't work with bejeweled type game play. Im rocking Ultron using only one maxed char. I have dozens, but only one gets used (and that is mostly as a meat shield, which anyone can do past 6). Its all about who, covers and how they are used. And i still HATE that the bombs are nuclear. Id opt for 50% more of them doing 1/4 the damage.
mjh wrote: how in the world does help with Ultron? Ultron cannot be stunned and her green is too random to target a bomb. I can also see her causing a cascade that brings a bomb right to the bottom
TxMoose wrote: after a day of difficulty yesterday with cap/cyc/mnmags
TxMoose wrote: MarvelMan wrote: Im rocking Ultron using only one maxed char. I have dozens, but only one gets used (and that is mostly as a meat shield, which anyone can do past 6). Its all about who, covers and how they are used. And i still HATE that the bombs are nuclear. Id opt for 50% more of them doing 1/4 the damage. yes, give ultron more health to eat through, but when a maxed lthor can't take one bomb, blegh.
MarvelMan wrote: Im rocking Ultron using only one maxed char. I have dozens, but only one gets used (and that is mostly as a meat shield, which anyone can do past 6). Its all about who, covers and how they are used. And i still HATE that the bombs are nuclear. Id opt for 50% more of them doing 1/4 the damage.
Haetron wrote: TxMoose wrote: MarvelMan wrote: Im rocking Ultron using only one maxed char. I have dozens, but only one gets used (and that is mostly as a meat shield, which anyone can do past 6). Its all about who, covers and how they are used. And i still HATE that the bombs are nuclear. Id opt for 50% more of them doing 1/4 the damage. yes, give ultron more health to eat through, but when a maxed lthor can't take one bomb, blegh. And then the fight is like every other MPQ fight where you just build AP and damage ability the boss to death, taking attrition damage while you do so.
Malcrof wrote: Tried my 3/4/3 SW today with Ultron.. all of her cd tiles were placed in the bottom 2 rows, never once got to see one go off. Good news though, her hex bolt does take care of bombs. Still lost , Ultron had 3400 hp left.. i just needed 1 more turn.. ugh.
Malcrof wrote: Is Starlord able to overwrite bombs with his purple?
nick_chicane wrote: The thing I just dont like about the last couple of rounds of Ultron is its pure luck whether you beat him or not. If those bombs land in the wrong place all you can do is watch them fall to the bottom and your eventual death. It would be more fair if we had powers to change them or even just move them.
Twombley wrote: For me, this ultron event is the worst of the three so far. The bomb damage? Grief, 10k per bomb, and sheer luck if you happen to get the colours right. And for a win? Marvel. Wow. Not enjoying the event, so not continuing. I guess there are enough different events to suit everyone's tastes, and this one is not for me. I'll do the early stages for the token rewards, but then walk off. Life is too short for that mess of a game.
Pylgrim wrote: I have to say that I completely agree with this. If it weren't for the high bomb damage, I'd never, ever lose in that node. You have all the odds at your favour (i.e. full control over the board, turn after turn) but a significant chance of being screwed by chance. That makes you plan every single move as optimally as possible to minimise bad the impact of bad luck. Sometimes things seem dire and you have to gamble on a move that will bring new tiles into the board that hopefully will allow you to match away bombs, etc. It is exciting because the danger is real; it is, as vhailor says all or nothing but I think that's actually a positive as usually the rest of the MPQ experience are shades of gray (i.e. you win consistently but your heroes quickly accumulate damage across battles). As I see it, it is refreshingly different, exciting and rewarding of strategical thinking more than other events are.
Dauthi wrote: Pylgrim wrote: I have to say that I completely agree with this. If it weren't for the high bomb damage, I'd never, ever lose in that node. You have all the odds at your favour (i.e. full control over the board, turn after turn) but a significant chance of being screwed by chance. That makes you plan every single move as optimally as possible to minimise bad the impact of bad luck. Sometimes things seem dire and you have to gamble on a move that will bring new tiles into the board that hopefully will allow you to match away bombs, etc. It is exciting because the danger is real; it is, as vhailor says all or nothing but I think that's actually a positive as usually the rest of the MPQ experience are shades of gray (i.e. you win consistently but your heroes quickly accumulate damage across battles). As I see it, it is refreshingly different, exciting and rewarding of strategical thinking more than other events are. Agreed. It is exhilarating to snag a 4 match next to a bomb in hope it will drop a color you need next to it, or using your match 3 skills to maneuver 2 bombs in places where they can be double matched in one turn. When all else fails, and a bomb is about to hit, instead of giving up I find it fun to use a shake-up or mix-up ability and see what luck will deal me. I am on round 8 and have wiped a couple times now, but still had fun struggling to the last bomb drop. Board manipulation through player skill and character abilities have never been so relevant, so it's nice to see a new skill-set being put in the spotlight to succeed. You either find a way to match the bombs with them, or die trying.