Ruinate wrote: I might have to recruit a level 1 Hawkeye.
Buret0 wrote: Ruinate wrote: No game should have this much rng. Bad board? Here, get 1 shot. I wiped 5 times in a row and was about to rage. Lcap, Mnmag, IM40(2yellow) has been my only way to deal with this nonsense. Even then it's a huge gamble. If I'm unable to charge yellow or purple in the first couple of turns, its over. If too many of Cap tiles get wiped from the bottom and I run out of ap, its over. I've tried multiple 2* Hawkeye 5-match team comps with a horrible success rate. I don't know how you guys are running Witch or Gsbw. Gsbw is too slow without Witch and my Witch tiles constantly get wiped from the bottom. I might have to recruit a level 1 Hawkeye. Usually it is possible to match away the first few bombs that come by. If the SW CD tile appears too low on the board to detonate, you can either match it yourself or (if it is very low) just let Ultron blow it up to respawn it. If the CD tile is high enough, you just need to focus on grabbing purple or (if possible, in priority over grabbing it) arranging the purple around the CD tile to make it more likely to crit. If you are 5 covered in Arcane Incantation, you should get a CD tile on the top half of the board about half of time, which is all you need for it to go off. If it is on the bottom two rows, just match bombs or grab purple and let Ultron blow it up. If it is on row three or four, you might be better off matching it yourself.
Ruinate wrote: No game should have this much rng. Bad board? Here, get 1 shot. I wiped 5 times in a row and was about to rage. Lcap, Mnmag, IM40(2yellow) has been my only way to deal with this nonsense. Even then it's a huge gamble. If I'm unable to charge yellow or purple in the first couple of turns, its over. If too many of Cap tiles get wiped from the bottom and I run out of ap, its over. I've tried multiple 2* Hawkeye 5-match team comps with a horrible success rate. I don't know how you guys are running Witch or Gsbw. Gsbw is too slow without Witch and my Witch tiles constantly get wiped from the bottom. I might have to recruit a level 1 Hawkeye.
Ruinate wrote: Every time I lost, it was because of 2 (or 1 if it's a 2*Hawkeye team) unstoppable bombs right off the bat. Feels bad man.
raisinbman wrote: I've never seen folks get this incensed about PVE. Or even Ultron. I wonder if folks thought Ultron was gonna be any different from the last 2 rounds or PVE in general? Then you know when to retreat now
Ruinate wrote: raisinbman wrote: I've never seen folks get this incensed about PVE. Or even Ultron. I wonder if folks thought Ultron was gonna be any different from the last 2 rounds or PVE in general? Then you know when to retreat now How is getting upset at bad rng in pve any different than in pvp? How convenient is it for you is it to specifically mention pve? Maybe I'm missing something, but why would I retreat instead of doing the max amount of damage that I can?
Lerysh wrote: theHappyDance wrote: simonsez wrote: I think this is the price we pay for having 10 health packs now Correction: it's the price they think we should pay for having 10 health packs now, but I think all this prick moves on their part (improve one thing and make something else terrible at the same time) hurt them in the long run. Instead of just you know, making the game more fun to play. Needing a perfect board to win is not that. Um... I have yet to die to Ultron so far so... perfect board not really required. Just board manipulation skills. And this is still one of the more fun events (for me) that they have.
theHappyDance wrote: simonsez wrote: I think this is the price we pay for having 10 health packs now Correction: it's the price they think we should pay for having 10 health packs now, but I think all this prick moves on their part (improve one thing and make something else terrible at the same time) hurt them in the long run. Instead of just you know, making the game more fun to play. Needing a perfect board to win is not that.
simonsez wrote: I think this is the price we pay for having 10 health packs now
Vhailorx wrote: Dauthi and lerysh, Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think the assumptions underlying your statements are wrong. Board manipulation requires ap. Ap requires collecting tiles. Collecting the right tiles requires some luck in terms of tile placement. When bombs are 1-hit kills, it is entirely possible to have a character dropped by a stray unmatchable bomb before you can collect enough ap to manipulate the board. Good teams and good strategies can help, but luck is always a factor with this game mechanic, and especially for transitioners who have lower health rosters. It's great that you haven't been hit by more than two bombs. Even two bombs can drop two characters if you didn't top off on health before the match (in round 6 or above). I just finished a match where a stack of 3 unwatchable bombs slowly marched down one side of the board while the game refused to give me any of the 3 colors I could have used to protect myself with board manipulation. What strategy could I have used to solve that puzzle?
DrStrange-616 wrote: Somebody must be in Round 8. Anyone know what the per bomb damage is then?
Nivrax wrote: Reading this thread starts to annoy me more than fighting Utron, good job. Apparently if I'm getting boards that only give me one possible match I just suck at game and need to l2p. I was fighting Ultron in first runaround and I was clearing him, sometimes getting hit by bomb and two. Except now it's impossible to survive that. I wouldn't even care if I would just wipe it like in a PvE goon node, there you just waste 3 health packs. But here losing means additionally not getting reward, losing one try permanently AND having to redo those stupid Gunner mission. And of course also hurting your alliance on top of that.
Nivrax wrote: Reading this thread starts to annoy me more than fighting Utron, good job. Apparently if I'm getting boards that only give me one possible match I just suck at game and need to l2p
Dauthi wrote: Vhailorx wrote: Dauthi and lerysh, Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think the assumptions underlying your statements are wrong. Board manipulation requires ap. Ap requires collecting tiles. Collecting the right tiles requires some luck in terms of tile placement. When bombs are 1-hit kills, it is entirely possible to have a character dropped by a stray unmatchable bomb before you can collect enough ap to manipulate the board. Good teams and good strategies can help, but luck is always a factor with this game mechanic, and especially for transitioners who have lower health rosters. It's great that you haven't been hit by more than two bombs. Even two bombs can drop two characters if you didn't top off on health before the match (in round 6 or above). I just finished a match where a stack of 3 unwatchable bombs slowly marched down one side of the board while the game refused to give me any of the 3 colors I could have used to protect myself with board manipulation. What strategy could I have used to solve that puzzle? The reason I have been hit by two bombs is because sometimes there isn't anything you can do, but if you have played match 3s for a long time you can usually figure out how to get rid of most of them. I have played against goons an uncountable amount of times, and this is a ramped up version of that. Players need to realize its not about collecting ap before the opponent like how the game usually flows, its about getting to the bombs and disarming them. Damage can come second. Maybe this is what is tripping some people up. Again, I'm not talking about skills a character has, though many can help, I am talking about match 3 skills a player has. Ultron is just a hardcore match 3 puzzle.
mjh wrote: these bombs are doing way too much dmg. 8850 now. fix this D3
johnnyzero wrote: Yeah, that was a team of stragglers after my other two teams got wiped by bad boards. My board manipulators are not very well leveled or covered. But I do have a link in my sig to my roster, I'll take some suggestions! Just took a quick peak at your roster. Why not give 2* Hawkeye a shot at him. Partner him with someone who can make match fives and watch those speed shots stack up. As long as they are a couple rows from the bottom, they'll do nice damage on Ultron. Maybe partner him with GSBW and Scarlet Witch. Scarlet Witch's blue will generate Purple (and possible a match 5 for a Speed Shot) and then use GSBW's purple to make match fives and take out bombs. Scarlet Witch's green gives a little bit of board control in an emergency, and GSBW's green can take out bombs if you line it up right.
Yeah, that was a team of stragglers after my other two teams got wiped by bad boards. My board manipulators are not very well leveled or covered. But I do have a link in my sig to my roster, I'll take some suggestions!
Malcrof wrote: Just had a board shuffle (no matches available) on Tetris Ulron... brought 4 bombs to the bottom, wiped my team.. was only the 6th turn, didn't get a single ability off. That may need to be addressed.