Phill_C said: I’ve never really had trouble with bishop, not as much as going up against a gritty team but that’s just my 2cents.
bluewolf said: Phill_C said: I’ve never really had trouble with bishop, not as much as going up against a gritty team but that’s just my 2cents. You must be in the 4 tier then. Most people in the 5 tier hate Bishop. Gritty is pretty easily handled (barring something like a 500+ Kitty).
Phill_C said: bluewolf said: Phill_C said: I’ve never really had trouble with bishop, not as much as going up against a gritty team but that’s just my 2cents. You must be in the 4 tier then. Most people in the 5 tier hate Bishop. Gritty is pretty easily handled (barring something like a 500+ Kitty). Yes you’re correct but wouldn’t using silver silver and try keeping him upfront kinda help vs Bishop? I know you top tier players probably know how to handle him best and not trying to be a smarty as I definitely understand he is a nightmare but he must have decent counters or is it more about time/healthpacks?
BriMan2222 said: Phill_C said: bluewolf said: Phill_C said: I’ve never really had trouble with bishop, not as much as going up against a gritty team but that’s just my 2cents. You must be in the 4 tier then. Most people in the 5 tier hate Bishop. Gritty is pretty easily handled (barring something like a 500+ Kitty). Yes you’re correct but wouldn’t using silver silver and try keeping him upfront kinda help vs Bishop? I know you top tier players probably know how to handle him best and not trying to be a smarty as I definitely understand he is a nightmare but he must have decent counters or is it more about time/healthpacks? The problem for 5 star players is that his passive procs on just 5 star match damage. Not a problem for 4 stars, but with a 5 star as soon as you make a match 3 he then hits you back for double the damage and also gains blue ap. Bishop will have an entire 5 star team stunned with his blue, which is also a 4 turn stun, before you have enough ap to fire a single power to stop him.There are ways for 5 star players to beat him, but none of them are reliable and the matches take long usually, which is not good in pvp.
Wanted to bump this up. Has anything more been said on rebalances?
@omen said: Wanted to bump this up. Has anything more been said on rebalances?
Maybe they are doing small tweaks as seen recently in the app updates vs big rebalances?
But they aren’t exactly hitting the hot targets yet. Carbage? Valk? PunMax? Come on.....
Since someone else semi necro’d this. I haven’t seen this suggestion for cap/bish, but wouldn’t adding a passive to reduce enemy match damage on those 2 be the most direct method to solving the majority of issues stated here? I mean, it would be important to balance it so they are effective against characters like Karnak/Juggs, but it’s the softest nerf I can think of.
Since we are still bumping this.....
Hey! Devs! Since Surfer is essential again, I'm reminded.....he REALLY needs some buffing. He's one of the most powerful characters in Marvel but has been power-crept by so many other 5s. I am not going to get into "who should be a 5 or not" but please keep our first two cosmic-powered 5's on your list for improvements.
Even when he came out as the first 5 he wasn't overpowered compared to the 4's at the time.
Give him some love.
@captainheath said: Even when he came out as the first 5 he wasn't overpowered compared to the 4's at the time. Give him some love.
@captainheath said: Even when he came out as the first 5 he wasn't overpowered compared to the 4's at the time.
I remember when he first came out there was a node to see him in action. It was 3 of the best 4 stars at the time (don't remember who specifically) vs one champed silver surfer. Everyone was blown away by how strong he was compared to 4 stars and how he blew a team of the best 4 stars out of the water by himself.
But he's definitely nowhere near as powerful now as he seemed back then.