Feedback Wanted: Character Balance

Creating a character with a passive that creates a 3 turn countdown at the start of the match that prevented all passives would work nicely. It would fix both gritty and bishop/cap teams in pvp while allowing them to still be useful in pve.

Most passives kick in on your 2nd turn not at match start. If it was not at match start a mirror match bishop could still jump in front, smack you, gain his ap, if you "goof" and cascaded on him he got 10 or more blue. Then his team goes and the 3 turn passive block gets placed and he stuns one of your team while draining 6 of your teams strongest ap.

Most teams cannot deal around 17k damage in 3 turns without passives. At best this just slows the game down even more but does not fix the issue. Bishop or worthy would not jump in front so on offense they would just sit in back till the countdown was gone then start their craziness. On defense I'm not sure what team could take them out before the countdown resolved. You might get them to half health but they would still get to do their thing at least once.

Bishop does not do it for nothing. He trades health for damage and ap. His jump in front forces all 5* characters to deal with it or not come to the fight. His tradeoff is so strong though it's always worth it.

The amount of characters that can destroy, weaken, or steal specials is fairly large. Without specials on the board kitty is super slow. She is also slow on putting her own specials down. 8 yellow let's her put out 3 protects. 6 red puts a countdown that requires an enemy power to damage her team to put out 3 attack tiles. Kitty only shines with teammates that spam specials. Nobody spams specials like 4* grocket.

I still think there are multiple options across several tiers to deal with kitty's strenghts. Bishop and worthy have no solid answers in the 5* tier. If they just had an answer for these 2 jumping in front vs all 5* match damage in the 5* tier I would be happy.

Ok. So are 3 turns enough for you to remove those characters as a threat without any passives?

I guess the winky didn't translate that I was just kidding as well as intended...stupid winky...

@spatenfloot and others.

Honestly I love the ideas and theorycrafting solutions. I just try and think it out fully from in game how it would work and ask questions in that direction. I think we could pin down some good ideas for the devs to ponder on for moves in the game if we keep it up.

How about some characters/skills designed around the idea of support? For example, at level 5 make Silver Surfer's perfect being not only grant himself stun immunity, but for his teammates as well.

The one that immediately jumps to mind is Vision....

The rough idea is ok, but the modes are almost useless by themselves and you absolutely need red to attack.

In reality he uses the powers together, they should be able to coexist instead of replace each other and they could do something tiny individually too, so they were worth using even if one was on the board.

It occurs to me that you could potentially switch up Vision into the 3 tier's version of jump in front character, to bedevil the 4* players.

He has superhuman (computerized) reflexes, intangibility (can't touch him), can approach you untouched, phase into you, and just slightly increase his density and knock you unconscious (or straight up kill you, seems like a horror movie could be made if Disney wanted).

And more! Flight, energy beams, superhuman strength......and on and on.

Sounds like a powerset that could make him very good at counterattacks.

I'm not sure the devs should work on the 3 tier though; I think the best place to focus their efforts would be the 4 tier.