MarcusGraves wrote: Like I said, I get that she's a 4* but isn't this a bit much?
MarcusGraves wrote: Sorry if I happen to cringe at almost 4k team damage for only 10 cost that ends up doing a total of 11664 total damage, its more akin to a cheaper RoTP with little more damage and no drawback to it and actually removes special tile advantage on the board. Like I said, I get that she's a 4* but isn't this a bit much?
atomzed wrote: MarcusGraves wrote: Like I said, I get that she's a 4* but isn't this a bit much? I think she's ok for a 4*. She has 1 great ability (purple), 1 decent passive, and a so-so green. It is true that her purple deals 4k AOE dmg, but at the 4* level, her AOE will at most take out 1/4 of the 4* health. You are seeing her a lot now partly because she's boosted. Once she's not boosted , you are less likely to see her being used. She is a good balanced character. No nerf required.
Azoic wrote: Really? Can't kill someone on her own? Lol! Get 5 purple and 5 green covers and see how that goes. Even boosted to 315, she does 5600 purple and 4k green, which then produces all those tiles. I have had attack tiles procing for 1k on their own. Add in any HB strike tiles and it goes really nuts. Yes, trading match dmg against a true healer will not let you win. Firing off your abilities one at a time might not let you win. But like any other character, you have to save up ap and nuke a true healer. Fire off green then purple and boosted Patch and Laken both die.
Azoic wrote: Fire off green then purple and boosted Patch and Laken both die.
raisinbman wrote: Azoic wrote: Really? Can't kill someone on her own? Lol! Get 5 purple and 5 green covers and see how that goes. Even boosted to 315, she does 5600 purple and 4k green, which then produces all those tiles. I have had attack tiles procing for 1k on their own. Add in any HB strike tiles and it goes really nuts. Yes, trading match dmg against a true healer will not let you win. Firing off your abilities one at a time might not let you win. But like any other character, you have to save up ap and nuke a true healer. Fire off green then purple and boosted Patch and Laken both die. to be fair, I think the person means she'll have a hard time grabbing (20-22) AP and landing her stuff, which is a completely legitimate point. Getting more than 3 natural matches makes a match go on fairly long.
Polares wrote: raisinbman wrote: Azoic wrote: Really? Can't kill someone on her own? Lol! Get 5 purple and 5 green covers and see how that goes. Even boosted to 315, she does 5600 purple and 4k green, which then produces all those tiles. I have had attack tiles procing for 1k on their own. Add in any HB strike tiles and it goes really nuts. Yes, trading match dmg against a true healer will not let you win. Firing off your abilities one at a time might not let you win. But like any other character, you have to save up ap and nuke a true healer. Fire off green then purple and boosted Patch and Laken both die. to be fair, I think the person means she'll have a hard time grabbing (20-22) AP and landing her stuff, which is a completely legitimate point. Getting more than 3 natural matches makes a match go on fairly long. Yeah that. 22AP gets you 8000 hitpoints, how is that supposed to kill IMHB? Kingping? Carnage? 4hor? Even another Jean grey. Yeah it can kill unbuffed Patch and Daken, IF you fire them both together. But do you see many unbuffed Dakens and Patches in PVP, because I dont... Then you need 32 AP to kill someone (yeah probably all 3), but that is A LOT, you can dead by then... And I dont think is fair talking when she is buffed to 315. All chars are better when buffed. I am not saying she is not good, she definitely is, just saying that it is better to have one AoE and one good damage for one char or an AP creation ability that makes easier firing the first AoE ability (like 3 thor or KK) than just two AoE abilities. And that is what helps also make her balanced. PS: And this is why I think in the long run Kingpin could be a better char than she is, and why IMHB and ProfX are better than she is.
dkffiv wrote: On defense and by themselves, JG is probably a bigger threat than HB. AoE damage is much worse than single target because there's a high chance you will need to use 3 kits instead of 1 if something goes off.
I usually only buy 1 or 2 covers to finish off a 4* so I'm still about 3 covers away from having a maxed one. I'd have to check their speeds but I think I would probably use JG Buster for climbing and IF Buster for hops (if there isn't a better combo from the buffed characters list).
Vhailorx wrote: Now seems like a poor time to buy any 4* covers. Wait for r83. The devs have said that they are going to increase 4* availability. Why spend now when things are about to change ( potentially in a significant way)?
turul wrote: Just a heads up that Jean's purple got "stealth nerfed" (or i was simply faster than announcement), and is now unable to remove Ultron bomb's or any other future tiles.
barrok wrote: turul wrote: Just a heads up that Jean's purple got "stealth nerfed" (or i was simply faster than announcement), and is now unable to remove Ultron bomb's or any other future tiles. What do you mean by 'future' tiles?
Haetron wrote: turul wrote: Just a heads up that Jean's purple got "stealth nerfed" (or i was simply faster than announcement), and is now unable to remove Ultron bomb's or any other future tiles. Does this mean her 4th cover is now pointless? As it was the one that upgraded from Strike/Protect/Attack to all Special tiles.