funny enough, not seeing at all, I thought I would, his abilities are powerful
Wobby wrote: funny enough, not seeing at all, I thought I would, his abilities are powerful Side effect of not many having him covered yet?
TheOncomingStorm wrote: Most of the people are reply are nuts. First, the verdict was not within 30 seconds. I played him and several other characters before I made the post. Trust me, I do not play 30 second matches. Second, SS is a knock out punch, X-Force green is supposed to be there for X-Force to do a lot of his damage till he can get his big power off (which is usually only once per match). The new green fails miserably in this regard. Third, what world are people living in saying that his green is fine? I have respect for Nonce, Phantron, Dauthi, but y'all are just ridiculously wrong on this one. Let's go down the long laundry list of comparisons keeping in mind X-Force green does on average approximately 2200 damage with some board shake up at best. I hear about the value of cascades; I guess mine is broken, I get one cascade once per match if I'm lucky. And I'm not talking about 1 or 2 additional match 3's, not a bounty of AP. 3* Blade for the same amount of AP does 1877 damage, but also steals up to 3 AP per turn. 3* Fist for 5 AP (with 12 black banked) does 4000. 3* C Mags for 8 red and only 10 TUP's does 2,610 damage. For 2 AP more (10), his blue does up to 4,900 damage. 3* DD for 8 AP can do 3,044 if matched by a player (and it stays on the board) or 5,447 if AI matches. 3* Gamora for 5 AP does 1,719 damage. 3* DP for 6AP does 3,299 damage. 3* Daken for 5AP does 2,744 damage. These are 3* comparisons. 3* characters (using relevant comparisons) are better than a 4*. 3* Wolverine does 2,087 for 1 AP more and gives strike tiles. TBTI still compares well to SS. Like I said, they got SS right. 2* Wolverine does 2,884 for 4 more AP. That's right. These are comparison to the lesser versions of Wolverine. It gets worse. The new 4* X-Force Wolverine does 400 less points of damage at 270, then the pre-nerf X-Force did at level 70. I'm sorry, but if you want to know the definition of overnerf, this is it right here. Nothing any one can say (developer or otherwise) can persuade me based just on this that the new version was overnerfed. Here is the kicker. 4* Dino for one green less = 2,512. That's right, Dino (the novelty character) has a better green for less AP. I understand the importance of having balance in the game. I can understand wanting to overnerf than leave a character too powerful. I cannot understand what the hold up is in adjusting is underwhelming green ability. Like I said, I'm not looking for a return to it's pre-nerf level, but it should do (as a 4* tier character) at least as much as (and preferably more damage than) 3* characters and the trophy that is Dino. I'm not sure if that figure is 3000 points of damage, but I know enough to that 2100-2200 is not a sufficient amount. One last plea, between MMR changes and health bumps you have effectively **** the 4* tier. It is imperative that this oversight is addressed ASAP, not in the usual wait and see and because it does not affect a majority of the playerbase. 4* tier players may not make a majority, but we are still part of the player base. I would hope that you value (or respect) us to give it the attention that it merits.
TheOncomingStorm wrote: Here is the kicker. 4* Dino for one green less = 2,512. That's right, Dino (the novelty character) has a better green for less AP.
Heartburn wrote: i agree with your post, but the devs made it clear that they don't want 4* to be what we think they should be. they want them 160% stronger then 3*.
sinnerjfl wrote: Blammo is awesome at 5 covers, if you wait to have 12 green AP, you'll do 2590 dmg (14 x 185) + the boardshake that is fairly amazing compared to even X-Force. R&G is a good replacement for X-Force.
Phantron wrote: Blammo can't get rid of enemy special tiles. It's otherwise a pretty solid ability that used to be overlooked because X Force is unconditionally better in every way.
wymtime wrote: First no. R&G is a nice character but is very slow. Cyclops is a much stronger character than R&G and can do massive damage and is a closer replacement.