WilliamK99 wrote: Well it didnt take long for the nerf police to come out in force...Why complain? It's not like it is an unlevel playing field everyone has the opportunity to level Iron Fist and if you choose not to, it's on you, not the game...
NorthernPolarity wrote: WilliamK99 wrote: Well it didnt take long for the nerf police to come out in force...Why complain? It's not like it is an unlevel playing field everyone has the opportunity to level Iron Fist and if you choose not to, it's on you, not the game... I for one, would like a 3* metagame where all characters are created equal. A 3* metagame where IF / LazyThor / Hood do not obsolete every other character in the game, and where underrepresented characters such as Punisher, Torch, etc can have their moment in the spotlight as well. While we can't make this a reality for all characters (looking at you Psylocke), 3* people should be able to choose between more characters other than Patch / Hulk, LThor / Support, + IF / BP and have that be optimal. I've always felt like "who cares" is an incredibly lazy response: it seems silly to just leave broken characters as is when you could actually have varied team compositions be viable.
lokiagentofhotness wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: WilliamK99 wrote: Well it didnt take long for the nerf police to come out in force...Why complain? It's not like it is an unlevel playing field everyone has the opportunity to level Iron Fist and if you choose not to, it's on you, not the game... I for one, would like a 3* metagame where all characters are created equal. A 3* metagame where IF / LazyThor / Hood do not obsolete every other character in the game, and where underrepresented characters such as Punisher, Torch, etc can have their moment in the spotlight as well. While we can't make this a reality for all characters (looking at you Psylocke), 3* people should be able to choose between more characters other than Patch / Hulk, LThor / Support, + IF / BP and have that be optimal. I've always felt like "who cares" is an incredibly lazy response: it seems silly to just leave broken characters as is when you could actually have varied team compositions be viable. The 3* (or 4*) metagame is always going to be about speed unless we change the entire structure of how PVP works. I like playing around with other combos, but that's only in PVE when I can afford to take 5 min to play a game, or the lower levels of SSIM. When you start to reach the point where you're a juicy target, there's no way you choose any team that's not the fastest offensively and (hopefully) also decent defensively. But offensive ability > defensive - which is why Thoress. Let them do away with you losing points when attacked then. But then you'd just have another PVE, where you grind and grind to the end. It's just - at this point people complain when characters released are underpowered and can't compete with the 4stars. Then they release a character like Iron Fist (which complements Luke Cage as much as he does XF), and people complain he's OP. These are 3stars, not 4stars. You should be able to at least get 5 covers during the first PVE release, and a couple more during the PVP. So it should be easy to cover him fully by next season. Unlike say trying to get a fully covered Thoress now.
WilliamK99 wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: WilliamK99 wrote: Well it didnt take long for the nerf police to come out in force...Why complain? It's not like it is an unlevel playing field everyone has the opportunity to level Iron Fist and if you choose not to, it's on you, not the game... I for one, would like a 3* metagame where all characters are created equal. A 3* metagame where IF / LazyThor / Hood do not obsolete every other character in the game, and where underrepresented characters such as Punisher, Torch, etc can have their moment in the spotlight as well. While we can't make this a reality for all characters (looking at you Psylocke), 3* people should be able to choose between more characters other than Patch / Hulk, LThor / Support, + IF / BP and have that be optimal. I've always felt like "who cares" is an incredibly lazy response: it seems silly to just leave broken characters as is when you could actually have varied team compositions be viable. I have never seen a game reach the type of balance you describe if you know of one please let me know I'd love to play it...
NorthernPolarity wrote: WilliamK99 wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: WilliamK99 wrote: Well it didnt take long for the nerf police to come out in force...Why complain? It's not like it is an unlevel playing field everyone has the opportunity to level Iron Fist and if you choose not to, it's on you, not the game... I for one, would like a 3* metagame where all characters are created equal. A 3* metagame where IF / LazyThor / Hood do not obsolete every other character in the game, and where underrepresented characters such as Punisher, Torch, etc can have their moment in the spotlight as well. While we can't make this a reality for all characters (looking at you Psylocke), 3* people should be able to choose between more characters other than Patch / Hulk, LThor / Support, + IF / BP and have that be optimal. I've always felt like "who cares" is an incredibly lazy response: it seems silly to just leave broken characters as is when you could actually have varied team compositions be viable. I have never seen a game reach the type of balance you describe if you know of one please let me know I'd love to play it... Haha, most competitive games are balanced to this degree right? League of Legends has a champion pool of like 5 or so characters that are considered reasonable picks for each role, most fighting games such as Street Fighter have at least 30% of their roster be competitive, so on and so forth.
EpicBeastmode wrote: IMO IF helps out the 3* rostered teams more so then the people who have dominant 4*s. Will the people that place in the top ranks already benefit much from IF? Or will IF help to close the gap more against those top players by providing a vehicle for these 3* black users to take down the 4*s easier?
NorthernPolarity wrote: I mean no one has anything to worry about as long as the nerf is done right. I think something like nerfing purple to 7 or 8 ap and buffing damage a little bit would come a long way towards a balanced IF. It's just that Demiurge has messed up most nerfs in the past leading to massive PTSD.
onimus wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: I mean no one has anything to worry about as long as the nerf is done right. I think something like nerfing purple to 7 or 8 ap and buffing damage a little bit would come a long way towards a balanced IF. It's just that Demiurge has messed up most nerfs in the past leading to massive PTSD. You really think 7 or 8 is enough? I was thinking more along the lines of 10. It needs to be a 4 matcher. The impact is just way too high.
GrumpySmurf1002 wrote: onimus wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: I mean no one has anything to worry about as long as the nerf is done right. I think something like nerfing purple to 7 or 8 ap and buffing damage a little bit would come a long way towards a balanced IF. It's just that Demiurge has messed up most nerfs in the past leading to massive PTSD. You really think 7 or 8 is enough? I was thinking more along the lines of 10. It needs to be a 4 matcher. The impact is just way too high. Technopathic Strike turns specific tiles to black (meaning you better predict the cascades), and only costs 9. Nobody complains about it's overwhelming imbalance.
NorthernPolarity wrote: the king of the 3*s as he is now.
Soda Popinski wrote: They can make 3* characters more readily available so more 3* rosters can compete with the 4*s. Just a simple conspiracy theory.