NorthernPolarity wrote: raisinbman wrote: Sandwichboy wrote: I'm of the mind that he's totally worth spending HP on if for no other reason than the dev cycle seems packed enough to push any big nerf to him probably a long ways off. And good god, after that simulator fight with him, TGT and Luke Cage, pretty much any time I see him and LC together in pvp is going to be a skip. That was really slow and really frustrating to face. He's worth spending HP on. It's few and far between that something pops in up MPQ that scares people off from fighting someone in PVP. That's a serious statement. And about him getting nerfed? It's down the pipeline. Months. Look at how long it took for Sentry to get nerfed. IMO X-Force will get nerfed/changed(or other 4* will be brought to his level) before Iron Fist gets nerfed. Only worth spending HP on if you don't have xor. He is probably the best pairing with XF, and king of the 3* meta with BP if you don't have 4*s, but xor is still superior.
raisinbman wrote: Sandwichboy wrote: I'm of the mind that he's totally worth spending HP on if for no other reason than the dev cycle seems packed enough to push any big nerf to him probably a long ways off. And good god, after that simulator fight with him, TGT and Luke Cage, pretty much any time I see him and LC together in pvp is going to be a skip. That was really slow and really frustrating to face. He's worth spending HP on. It's few and far between that something pops in up MPQ that scares people off from fighting someone in PVP. That's a serious statement. And about him getting nerfed? It's down the pipeline. Months. Look at how long it took for Sentry to get nerfed. IMO X-Force will get nerfed/changed(or other 4* will be brought to his level) before Iron Fist gets nerfed.
Sandwichboy wrote: I'm of the mind that he's totally worth spending HP on if for no other reason than the dev cycle seems packed enough to push any big nerf to him probably a long ways off. And good god, after that simulator fight with him, TGT and Luke Cage, pretty much any time I see him and LC together in pvp is going to be a skip. That was really slow and really frustrating to face.
raisinbman wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: raisinbman wrote: Sandwichboy wrote: I'm of the mind that he's totally worth spending HP on if for no other reason than the dev cycle seems packed enough to push any big nerf to him probably a long ways off. And good god, after that simulator fight with him, TGT and Luke Cage, pretty much any time I see him and LC together in pvp is going to be a skip. That was really slow and really frustrating to face. He's worth spending HP on. It's few and far between that something pops in up MPQ that scares people off from fighting someone in PVP. That's a serious statement. And about him getting nerfed? It's down the pipeline. Months. Look at how long it took for Sentry to get nerfed. IMO X-Force will get nerfed/changed(or other 4* will be brought to his level) before Iron Fist gets nerfed. Only worth spending HP on if you don't have xor. He is probably the best pairing with XF, and king of the 3* meta with BP if you don't have 4*s, but xor is still superior. I can't say either way. I'm so far from them I can't possibly imagine how it looks from at the top. All I know is: A) He was probably a 4* character that got downgraded to 3*(in name only from what I can tell) He has an un-erasable attack tile that will make people either HURT or skip your team entirely(Health packs are at a premium for most players) C) He makes your XForce Xforcier D) He destroys low health options(Loki/Hood)
Pwuz_ wrote: IF could be a potential glimpse at a future 3* power that has yet to be announced. What about a character having a power like the reverse of Falcon's Yellow? Each match of a certain color would trigger a fixed reduction in the value of any enemy tiles. Well, that or perhaps a chance for Doc Ock to return ready to spit out Insult tiles. The other explanation is that someone accidentally swapped Strike tiles with Attack tiles for IF. How much different would IF be if he spit out a Strike tile at the start of each turn and Attack tiles with his Fang Strike?
EpicBeastmode wrote: IMO IF helps out the 3* rostered teams more so then the people who have dominant 4*s. Will the people that place in the top ranks already benefit much from IF? Or will IF help to close the gap more against those top players by providing a vehicle for these 3* black users to take down the 4*s easier?
daibar wrote: The most disappointing thing is that the single move by itself was broken. This wasn't some chain together abilities broken scenario: it's one move! It makes you wonder about the design team. All IF's abilities are overpowered. Exquisite Technique is guaranteed massive damage. His green is nearly 2 Judgements. IFoKU is among the best enabling moves in the game and does 4k damage for 5 AP otherwise, consequence free.
gobstopper wrote: Pretty sure IF was originally meant to be a 4*. When they changed him to a 3*, they didn't bother to do any rebalancing. See: IF's revive and heal timers are the same as a 4*@NP Think you misread. daibar just said the move is broken by itself.
WilliamK99 wrote: Well it didnt take long for the nerf police to come out in force...Why complain? It's not like it is an unlevel playing field everyone has the opportunity to level Iron Fist and if you choose not to, it's on you, not the game...
NorthernPolarity wrote: WilliamK99 wrote: Well it didnt take long for the nerf police to come out in force...Why complain? It's not like it is an unlevel playing field everyone has the opportunity to level Iron Fist and if you choose not to, it's on you, not the game... I for one, would like a 3* metagame where all characters are created equal. A 3* metagame where IF / LazyThor / Hood do not obsolete every other character in the game, and where underrepresented characters such as Punisher, Torch, etc can have their moment in the spotlight as well. While we can't make this a reality for all characters (looking at you Psylocke), 3* people should be able to choose between more characters other than Patch / Hulk, LThor / Support, + IF / BP and have that be optimal. I've always felt like "who cares" is an incredibly lazy response: it seems silly to just leave broken characters as is when you could actually have varied team compositions be viable.