Toxicadam wrote: I think it's pretty apparent that his stun has been purposely changed into a late-match ability. In the same way The Hood's Yellow, Loki's Black, Captain America/Falcon's Defense tiles are used. You don't actively seek AP tiles out and build towards using them, you just slowly acquire the AP throughout the match. Usually when there is one enemy left (and one with a shred of HP's left), you would have acquired enough to use it.
TropicYeo wrote: I'm glad spidey is getting a nerf. I almost get sick to my stomach when someone running a team of spidey, and two one stars manage to beat my max 3 star team. Something doesn't add up here...
Phaserhawk wrote: I think people are missing what they are making him. He's going from a team stun to a single focus stun character. You can for the most part keep one member of the opposing team locked down assuming you can make the matches. Current Stunners: Captain America 2* and 3* Daredevil Iron Man 40 Hawkeye (Modern) Moonstone Storm (Classic) Black Widow (Modern) Venom I can honestly say, I would prefer Black Widow's stun on Spider-man over what he has now. However, other than Venom lvl 4 no one has a lower stun than Spiderman. However, I think people are having a hard time adjusting to how Spider-man plays now. He can't lock down a team like he used to and that frustrates players because they were so reliant on it. Spiderman is now officially a defensive character, which is where I feel the game is moving. My thought is 3/5/5 and focusing on defensive tile creation. Pair him with an active purple user, maybe Falcon, who really pumps Spidey early game. First few turns match purple, get def tiles, match yellow to pump them up. Your team is now safe from match damage. We'll see how he shakes out, I have a feeling he wont' be as bad as thought.
Spoit wrote: Again, all these arguments are predicated on already having 2 web tiles out, or starting with 10 blue AP. And even then, to actually keep a single person locked down, you need to average 1.6 blue a turn, or more than every other match needs to be a blue. By comparison, FatCap starts stunning at 12, which in most cases is the same 4 matches to get the 'initial state' 10 AP for the 2 webs, puts down a protect tile that's actually stronger than the 3 web tile one each cast, has an effective average of .66, or not even a blue match every cycle, allows you to place tiles where they're actually able to avoid matching (and if you're down to stunlocking a single enemy, it's not like he's matching it away very often anyway) and actually has another useful ability. The only downside is that the enemy does get a move every so often.
rixmith wrote: Wow, I excepted to see a happy : unhappy ratio of about 1 : 10. As someone with only a couple Spidey covers (not enough to really ever use him but had to face him sometimes) I think he went from way overpowered to a little bit underpowered. But from my perspective on the Marvel Universe, Spidey shouldn't be the centerpiece of a team (unlike Thor, Hulk or Magneto) but a useful team mate. I think his Blue should be good enough to delay an opponent who has gotten enough AP to activate a big ability, but not so good it can stunlock the opposing team. I think that if the 5 Blue got you 2 turns of stun on one opponent instead of one he might be about right.
buddy2034 wrote: I'm in the unhappy camp on this. I was as guilty as any of abusing him, but I think board control is a vital part of the game. The best options for that are OBW, Hood, Spidey and CMags. All I see now are maxed widows. I have her too; I just got so sick of her after making the initial transition to 3*. I don't have a maxed Hood and I'm trying to figure out Mags without the healing. It's just incredibly frustrating to know a week ago I could grind in PVP up to 900 without using healthpacks and now I find myself struggling to move up the board as quickly. It's not unfair, just new and slow - very slow. I've got the start of a solid team. Maxed Hulk, Pun and Patch with solid support . I just don't have the horses to keep up with the best out there which my experience showed as L Thor and Hood. Spidey is what built my team and I'm just lost right now to move on. It'll pass with time I'm sure.