Kuchiri wrote: A stronger heal than Original Black Widow, a 3 turn 5AP stun, and Passive Protect tiles? Bag-Man v2? Can I have some of the stuff you guys are smoking? Seriously though, why are people complaining about this. Oh Boo-Hoo I can't spam All-Tied-Up over and over again and beat every single person in this game. Let's add to the fact that his heal was worthless unless there was ten or more Web Tiles on the board. I see people raging when they go against him now in pvp and see he heals his team for 3000 just like the 2* players are raging at the 1200 OBW team heal. He is still a strong 3* support that is still useful in PVP and PVE.
WilsonFisk wrote: vayhle wrote: Here's the thing for me. I started playing a few months ago, had fun, built up a few covers. Started to be able to compete, and enjoyed the game enough I decided to pay in to get a cover maxed out, I chose Spiderman because he seemed so useful. Bought the covers last week, now its nerfed to hell. I PM-d and emailed asking for a way to recover this (coins refunded), no response. I would never choose or level this card with the new setup. Thor, Punisher, Hulk or wait for another now that spiderman is bagman+. Thing is, next week maybe Thor will be determined OP, or Hulk gets dropped to 1000 health at level 141 because that would be fun too. Lesson learned. Never, ever, spend money on this game. I bought the HP to boost my Spidey also. Contacted D3 and got nowhere. I then contacted Google Play support explaining to them that the product I purchased was changed post-purchase, and they gave me a FULL refund on an Asgard Treasure. I was just asking for HP back from D3, and acknowledging that they could take the covers as well. So, my suggestion play hard ball and contact Google. I ended up with a refund and still have my boosted but soon worthless Spidey.
vayhle wrote: Here's the thing for me. I started playing a few months ago, had fun, built up a few covers. Started to be able to compete, and enjoyed the game enough I decided to pay in to get a cover maxed out, I chose Spiderman because he seemed so useful. Bought the covers last week, now its nerfed to hell. I PM-d and emailed asking for a way to recover this (coins refunded), no response. I would never choose or level this card with the new setup. Thor, Punisher, Hulk or wait for another now that spiderman is bagman+. Thing is, next week maybe Thor will be determined OP, or Hulk gets dropped to 1000 health at level 141 because that would be fun too. Lesson learned. Never, ever, spend money on this game.
DD-The-Mighty wrote: Osaic wrote: DayvBang wrote: dlaw008 wrote: I'm in the camp that they should have revised him completely. Remove the reliance on web tiles completely (I may post in another thread recommending that web tiles be removed from the game), turn one of his support powers into an offensive move, and generally make him more well-rounded. Spider-Man is stronger than Captain America in most versions, and known for his speed, stamina, willpower, intelligence, and wit. All D3 saw was a dude with web-shooters. As I am a fan of flavor, I would love a Spidey in this game that played that way: keep his stun ability potent, turn his Spider Sense protect tiles into a dodge (like Hawkeye's Avoid). Remove the heal altogether, and give him one offensive combo power - like a flurry of blows that feel sort of like OBW's double hit, or a low cost/low damage AOE - something that would simulate his acrobatic attack style. He wouldn't be a damaging bruiser like Thor, but he couldn't be ignored either - he'd be annoying like a bug! This would feel much more like Spidey, and would keep him relevant without being OP. Current mpq Spidey doesn't get it quite right, but nerfed Spidey feels even more off base. There's enough solid damage dealers in the three 3 range as it is. More good utitlity characters would be welcome as to give folks more options than Hood, Dakan and Cpt. Falcon. In addition to the very appropriate dodge idea (websense tingling. its perfect), Perhaps have him actually be a good bagman. More board control through the use of selectable web-lockdown tiles. there really isn't much of that used in the pvp game since noone seriously fields bag-man. Trade the stun for say a 6ap+ rankable lock-down tiles (maybe spike cost per level for more tiles per cast), keep the yellow healing, but make it like Phantron said: straight up heal with maybe a slight bonus for having webtiles out. (like 2* clawbubs green or a better ver of BP's yellow) It would be nice to see lockdown tiles introduced into the pvp meta as its probably going to be a looong time before there are a lot of Usable IW's in the pvp arena. See a potential cascade but want to get that last match to pop off your AOE? lock down those tiles and cripple your opponent. It would certainly capture oBW one true strength: you cant ignore her. Leave her to long and shell bite you in the tinykitty later. that buys your ai def force time to power up.
Osaic wrote: DayvBang wrote: dlaw008 wrote: I'm in the camp that they should have revised him completely. Remove the reliance on web tiles completely (I may post in another thread recommending that web tiles be removed from the game), turn one of his support powers into an offensive move, and generally make him more well-rounded. Spider-Man is stronger than Captain America in most versions, and known for his speed, stamina, willpower, intelligence, and wit. All D3 saw was a dude with web-shooters. As I am a fan of flavor, I would love a Spidey in this game that played that way: keep his stun ability potent, turn his Spider Sense protect tiles into a dodge (like Hawkeye's Avoid). Remove the heal altogether, and give him one offensive combo power - like a flurry of blows that feel sort of like OBW's double hit, or a low cost/low damage AOE - something that would simulate his acrobatic attack style. He wouldn't be a damaging bruiser like Thor, but he couldn't be ignored either - he'd be annoying like a bug! This would feel much more like Spidey, and would keep him relevant without being OP. Current mpq Spidey doesn't get it quite right, but nerfed Spidey feels even more off base.
DayvBang wrote: dlaw008 wrote: I'm in the camp that they should have revised him completely. Remove the reliance on web tiles completely (I may post in another thread recommending that web tiles be removed from the game), turn one of his support powers into an offensive move, and generally make him more well-rounded. Spider-Man is stronger than Captain America in most versions, and known for his speed, stamina, willpower, intelligence, and wit. All D3 saw was a dude with web-shooters.
dlaw008 wrote: I'm in the camp that they should have revised him completely. Remove the reliance on web tiles completely (I may post in another thread recommending that web tiles be removed from the game), turn one of his support powers into an offensive move, and generally make him more well-rounded. Spider-Man is stronger than Captain America in most versions, and known for his speed, stamina, willpower, intelligence, and wit. All D3 saw was a dude with web-shooters.
vayhle wrote: WilsonFisk wrote: vayhle wrote: Here's the thing for me. I started playing a few months ago, had fun, built up a few covers. Started to be able to compete, and enjoyed the game enough I decided to pay in to get a cover maxed out, I chose Spiderman because he seemed so useful. Bought the covers last week, now its nerfed to hell. I PM-d and emailed asking for a way to recover this (coins refunded), no response. I would never choose or level this card with the new setup. Thor, Punisher, Hulk or wait for another now that spiderman is bagman+. Thing is, next week maybe Thor will be determined OP, or Hulk gets dropped to 1000 health at level 141 because that would be fun too. Lesson learned. Never, ever, spend money on this game. I bought the HP to boost my Spidey also. Contacted D3 and got nowhere. I then contacted Google Play support explaining to them that the product I purchased was changed post-purchase, and they gave me a FULL refund on an Asgard Treasure. I was just asking for HP back from D3, and acknowledging that they could take the covers as well. So, my suggestion play hard ball and contact Google. I ended up with a refund and still have my boosted but soon worthless Spidey. You mean now worthless. i waited to try it out, its worse than i thought it would be, garbage.https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1050566 i send D3 a request through the game to replace the coins i spent boosting his covers, otherwise i will use the googleplay support as you suggest. this is total ****.
gobstopper wrote: Kuchiri wrote: A stronger heal than Original Black Widow, a 3 turn 5AP stun, and Passive Protect tiles? Bag-Man v2? Can I have some of the stuff you guys are smoking? Seriously though, why are people complaining about this. Oh Boo-Hoo I can't spam All-Tied-Up over and over again and beat every single person in this game. Let's add to the fact that his heal was worthless unless there was ten or more Web Tiles on the board. I see people raging when they go against him now in pvp and see he heals his team for 3000 just like the 2* players are raging at the 1200 OBW team heal. He is still a strong 3* support that is still useful in PVP and PVE. Two questions: 1. Who are these people who are raging when they get to face the new Spidey? 2. What kind of Dev kool-aid are they drinking and where can I get some?