Vertigozooropa wrote: How fair is it that I have my Black Widow maxed and need Spider-Man to stall while she picks up useless, damage-free greens on the way to her overpriced sniper attack.
Toxicadam wrote: Vertigozooropa wrote: How fair is it that I have my Black Widow maxed and need Spider-Man to stall while she picks up useless, damage-free greens on the way to her overpriced sniper attack. The spidey nerf has been known for 4 months now. So, yes it is fair. Also, you should have been running with Hulk or another green damage dealer (Ares, Thor, etc) to take advantage of all those green matches you are making during a match. Also, exclusively running on the desert environment.
griller wrote: Known to whom ? I heard about spidey nerf few weeks ago for the first time. And yes, I do not read the whole forum. Whatever is the truth, I have invested in spidey 4 months ago, does it mean he's out of the warranty ?
Saint Matthew wrote: Yeah, the devs made several posts and one dedicated post on who they are changing....next should be a buff to xforce wolvie, a nerf to c.mags, a buff to m.hawkeye on the list.
griller wrote: Yeah, heard about C.Mags and this is my third important investment. So they are finally going to destroy everything I have. Thanks for mentioning that, if I was not 100% sure about quitting this game, now I am.
Toxicadam wrote: Vertigozooropa wrote: How fair is it that I have my Black Widow maxed and need Spider-Man to stall while she picks up useless, damage-free greens on the way to her overpriced sniper attack. The spidey nerf has been known for 4 months now. So, yes it is fair. Also, you should have been running with Hulk or another green damage dealer (Ares, Thor, etc) to take advantage of all those green matches you are making during a match. Also, exclusively running on the desert environment to boost green AP collection.
Phaserhawk wrote: After this last Daken tournament, I for one will be glad to see the webslinger put to rest. While I don't like what they did for his nerf, as I think this character really needed a redesign, I was losing to teams with barely covered 3*'s 1* and 2* as primary team and they had one 3*, at 141 and yup, that would be spiderman, and I was consistently losing to these teams with a maxed out LT and Hood. But the only reason they were competitive was Spiderman, so yes he is a problem, that being said, I still think d3 went the wrong way with him by just nerfing him across the board, i really hope this is a nerf to fix the current problem of being overpowered and at least making him semi-playable while they rework him to something else, I know that's not gonna happen, but it helps me sleep at night.
griller wrote: Honestly, I can't imagine, how can I survive a 395 level PVE enemies without the 2AP stun. These enemies have so high hp (20 000), that it is impossible to kill them before they kill me, it's just simple math. 5AP stun for max 3 turns is called a less significant change ? This is the most important change which by my opinion makes spiderman almost useless for >200 lvl enemies. For me this is definitely the last drop and I quit this game. Not just nobody cares the European players, where most tournaments end 6am and to be successful, you simply must play last few hours, but this is the 2-nd time I have invested in character which is later made almost useless. Knowing that in advance I would invest in something else. Dear developers, if you break the agreement (you offer abilities, I purchase, you change it), you should return the investment made as it works in the whole civilized world. If you sell me anything, and later you remotely change it's functionality, you have to accept the return of equipment and return the money. Somehow I survived this approach in case of thor, but now, which character should I invest in ? Clearly not the strongest one as you permanently destroy investments made in strongest characters. I consider that highly unserious.
Lyrian wrote: Nemek wrote: Bowgentle wrote: Can we get this nerf over with and implement it, _please_? It's not like we haven't been waiting for over 4 months for it, and of course it would make way too much sense to switch this to live _before_ a PVE so that scaling is at least somewhat kept in check. Do it. Now. I think it makes way more sense to do it after season 1 is over. Getting 1000+ points in Shield Sim in a single play through for Spidey's victory tour seems fitting. The funbalance message is up on the news page of the game. Likely, the change will occur tomorrow afternoon, once the Season closes. Or, you know, exactly 42 minutes or so before the end of it, leading to massive server downtime that prevents anyone from playing for the last hour of the Versus/Season events.
Nemek wrote: Bowgentle wrote: Can we get this nerf over with and implement it, _please_? It's not like we haven't been waiting for over 4 months for it, and of course it would make way too much sense to switch this to live _before_ a PVE so that scaling is at least somewhat kept in check. Do it. Now. I think it makes way more sense to do it after season 1 is over. Getting 1000+ points in Shield Sim in a single play through for Spidey's victory tour seems fitting.
Bowgentle wrote: Can we get this nerf over with and implement it, _please_? It's not like we haven't been waiting for over 4 months for it, and of course it would make way too much sense to switch this to live _before_ a PVE so that scaling is at least somewhat kept in check. Do it. Now.
bonebreak wrote: D3 are you looking at this thread????? I hope so. I really dont think you can go live with these changes as is. The community is very much in flux over them. These aren't minor nerfs to bring him in line. You are killing a character people spent real money and lots of time on.
Twysta wrote: ZenBrillig wrote: I think the changes look pretty good. He seems like a pretty balanced character, situational rather than must-have, which was the whole point. Can I ask what situations those would be?
ZenBrillig wrote: I think the changes look pretty good. He seems like a pretty balanced character, situational rather than must-have, which was the whole point.
davecazz wrote: I just want to continue to do efficient prologue healing which conflicts with the monetization model of the game.
ClydeFrog76 wrote: I couldn't give a toss about his healing abilities. I love the character, and they're nerfing him beyond the point where he's a worthwhile addition to any line-up.
bonebreak wrote: D3 are you looking at this thread????? I hope so..
Linkster79 wrote: Surely they have enough knowledge of how the game works to keep one of the most used characters still useable even if it meant a complete reworking of all of Spideys abilities. After all there is an entire forum full of ideas at their disposal.