Ascended Winners and Losers

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
Iron fist gives ascended cage all that black he needs for jab jab though - that power really seemed to come alive

I know they won't tell us the specifics, but I wish there was at least some rule of thumb we could use to see which characters or powers get good. It's just very inconsistent.

Has anyone gotten 3 star Black Widow to 5 star yet? If so, does the purple still cost 11 to make 6 green? What is the green damage? Thanks.

I honesty can’t imagine it’s worth focusing on 3BW as we really haven’t seen a single case that I’m aware of where ap costs dropped for a 3-5.

She seems like a permanent reward engine at this point in the game. An antiquated design there’s no point in updating.

If you’re in a position to ascend 3BW to a 5, you’ve probably got numerous winfinite teams you could run already.

I don’t think they’d drop the cost but sure. You could use a cheaper power to just spam yourself to a win on offense.

@bluewolf said:
If you’re in a position to ascend 3BW to a 5, you’ve probably got numerous winfinite teams you could run already.

I don’t think they’d drop the cost but sure. You could use a cheaper power to just spam yourself to a win on offense.

I'm not sure. Given enough time, everyone will ascend the 3s to 5s. Sure, it takes a lot of resources right now, but people used to say that about 550ing 5*, and now every single player gets a 550 m'Thor just for signing up (I think).

At 4* black widow’s power costs are still laughably high. Mine is at 282. What’s funny is that her green cost goes up every level you put on it - costs 15 at one cover up to 19 at 5 covers. Same with red, starts at 12 at one cover up to 17 at five, and purple just costs 11 all the time. I never noticed that before.

@entrailbucket said:

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
At 4* black widow’s power costs are still laughably high. Mine is at 282. What’s funny is that her green cost goes up every level you put on it - costs 15 at one cover up to 19 at 5 covers. Same with red, starts at 12 at one cover up to 17 at five, and purple just costs 11 all the time. I never noticed that before.

She's really, really old -- they used to mess with AP costs a lot. I think OBW has something similar. There were a few guys who got AP discounts the more covers they had, too.

1juggs still does.

GSBW is a top 3* to ascend, from my perspective. She feeds terrible characters, has a useful kit, and would very much benefit from a larger health pool. No reason not to ascend her!

It took a bit of getting going, but in simulator I nearly 1-shotted a team of BRB/mThor/Polaris after a few rounds of filling the board with enemy protects and firing his now only costing 7 green power and the resultant cascade with a team of 5* Kamala/ascended Eddie/Ascended King of Wakanda. It’s a dangerous game running them against Polaris though.

There was a massive set of convos surrounding this one, if I am remembering correctly, yes, you definitely want to ascend them for farming. This is especially true for ascending them both at max champion level since you are now double dipping rewards; IE: you get the rewards from maxing them PLUS the rewards for the new ascended levels.

There is a ton of preference on how to do this as it works best for your roster / slots and play style. For farming specifically max max is the way to go, if you are like a lot of people who are running out of slots, you might have to pick and choose who you want to ascend OR ascend people early to save space.

I personally ascend the characters I know I want to play at level 5 ASAP, or basically 1 plus covers over champion so you get the LL token. If you are going to save some for farming, it's ideal to also consider their base level rewards, IE: 3 Magneto you will likely want to max max since his play value is minimal and his level rewards are Polaris and Jugs.

So unless something changed or I forgot, the simple answer to your question is, YES, you do want to ascend to farm, but its a balance between preference and space for many. The 2 stars and 1 stars will actually pay their dividends faster than 3 and 4 due to the volume of covers you receive for them, especially once you get them to 5 star, where the rewards are way higher. Someone else will surely chime in with better specifics on the data of when to ascend if not max max etc. (I hope).

@WhiteBomber said:
There was a massive set of convos surrounding this one, if I am remembering correctly, yes, you definitely want to ascend them for farming. This is especially true for ascending them both at max champion level since you are now double dipping rewards; IE: you get the rewards from maxing them PLUS the rewards for the new ascended levels.

There is a ton of preference on how to do this as it works best for your roster / slots and play style. For farming specifically max max is the way to go, if you are like a lot of people who are running out of slots, you might have to pick and choose who you want to ascend OR ascend people early to save space.

I personally ascend the characters I know I want to play at level 5 ASAP, or basically 1 plus covers over champion so you get the LL token. If you are going to save some for farming, it's ideal to also consider their base level rewards, IE: 3 Magneto you will likely want to max max since his play value is minimal and his level rewards are Polaris and Jugs.

So unless something changed or I forgot, the simple answer to your question is, YES, you do want to ascend to farm, but its a balance between preference and space for many. The 2 stars and 1 stars will actually pay their dividends faster than 3 and 4 due to the volume of covers you receive for them, especially once you get them to 5 star, where the rewards are way higher. Someone else will surely chime in with better specifics on the data of when to ascend if not max max etc. (I hope).

I'm not actually sure that you want to ascend them for reward purposes ONLY. While yes you are double dipping on some of those excess levels, but you are losing out on selling the max champ.

And now that I'm thinking about it it's 100% not worth. To get an ascended 2 star to 266 you need 200 covers total if starting from 166, or 150 if you start from 181 (max/max ascension). There is absolutely no way that rewards you get from 166 to 266 are worth 3 times the max champ 2 star rewards (with 200 2 star covers you can cycle 2 star hero 3 times and have change to spare, fully maxing a 2 star takes 63 covers).

DO NOT ASCEND FOR REWARDS ONLY