Grand Experiment 2: Treading Water in the SCL 10 Post-Shardpocalypse
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I think for those that got in on Ascension Day (as @dramatist pointed out), won't have to worry about LL ever again if you're not going for 550 batches.
I ascended all my 3* (many of which I had both max champed already), and most of the 4* I could. I went from 3 LL to 220. And with Rex/Omega/Vulture all champed already, that pile will just kind of sit for a while as people rotate in an out. I tend to pull until the next character leaving is ~460, then save until the next rotation. That will leave all my CP for...
Classics! Most importantly, I probably spent ~3300 CP on classics when all was said and done. I had about 1500 I think, and then the rewards kept stacking. It enabled me to finish up dupes for a few characters, get other characters to 282 so I could 4x dip on LL/CP, and also get at least 1 extra 5* from my feeders.
The only bad thing on ascension day was I tested ascension with my Moon Knight without champing the dupe, and didn't get the freebie rewards.
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@rainkingucd said:
I think for those that got in on Ascension Day (as @dramatist pointed out), won't have to worry about LL ever again if you're not going for 550 batches.I ascended all my 3* (many of which I had both max champed already), and most of the 4* I could. I went from 3 LL to 220. And with Rex/Omega/Vulture all champed already, that pile will just kind of sit for a while as people rotate in an out. I tend to pull until the next character leaving is ~460, then save until the next rotation. That will leave all my CP for...
Classics! Most importantly, I probably spent ~3300 CP on classics when all was said and done. I had about 1500 I think, and then the rewards kept stacking. It enabled me to finish up dupes for a few characters, get other characters to 282 so I could 4x dip on LL/CP, and also get at least 1 extra 5* from my feeders.
The only bad thing on ascension day was I tested ascension with my Moon Knight without champing the dupe, and didn't get the freebie rewards.
Sadly, 220 LTs is barely enough to chase one set of 5* characters in the LT pool, so I very much doubt that anyone is "post-LT," even after the botched rewards.
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@Vhailorx said:
Sadly, 220 LTs is barely enough to chase one set of 5* characters in the LT pool, so I very much doubt that anyone is "post-LT," even after the botched rewards.
I think for people in this thread, those that are "keeping up" or borderline keeping up, and not 550ing, it is more than enough. I know it's a fringe case, and not normal for many, but at least with that as the starting point for me, I will cover.
More LTs are accrued with regular play. All 5* will get at least 4 covers from Boss Events/PVE Features, potentially more from retro feeders (not guaranteed, but fairly regular so far), and extra help from bonus shards now. I don't think 300 pulls is truly necessary anymore with the way bonus shards can help target and shape the last couple of covers into a champ-able character
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@Vhailorx said:
Sadly, 220 LTs is barely enough to chase one set of 5* characters in the LT pool, so I very much doubt that anyone is "post-LT," even after the botched rewards.
He has 3 months to get his normal 300, in addition to the 200 he got from ascension.
Easy to keep pace unless you completely stop playing.3 -
It’s been interesting earning champ rewards from 1* covers. I’m definitely looking forward to standard tokens now. I can tell that I’ll be iso poor again before too long ascending characters - I’ve been in stasis around 2 mil the way I play for months, and I’m down in the 900k range now since I’m basically rechamping the 4* tier at a faster pace than my earn rate.
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Finished up Vulture with some lightning deal 500hp for 5* shards, so I’m caught up to latest again.
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With Ascension Round 2 coming soon, I am prepped and ready (at least at the 1-3* range).
With my Ascension Day haul, plus retro rewards due to the bug fix, the latest are:
Omega Red: 475 (my 3rd highest toon now)
Vulture: 461
Miles: 458
with Peggy sitting at 8 covers.Even after getting Miles up to 458, I'm still sitting on 220 LL. I don't foresee any issues with keeping up so my ascension plans going forward will probably be a hybrid approach.
4*: Max-Max is one way to go, but my 4* will take forever to get there (my highest level 4* dupes were Captain Marvel and Medusa at ~340s, but I already ascended Medusa), and I prefer to use the ascended characters rather than hold out for rewards.
2* / 3*: Max-Max on the 2* / 3* seems logical as I have been building most of those in the background already, but I think when it is time to get those ascended 2* / 3* characters up to 5*, I'll go the quicker Max-Min route on the dupes
Characters that I need to be lower level to function I will hold off on (I ascended Valkyrie and kind of regret it, but didn't ascend 4* Deadpool)
Current Favourites:
5*: Okoye to generally just bring up her levels since everyone else is champed
4*: Polaris as I am building up a solid base to ascend her when she's eligible
3*: Omega Red as he is the only ascendable 3* that I haven't ascended yet. The dupe is at 185 so I just got the Sabretooth covers, but maybe I should ascend him already to speed up the process. Decisions decisions.0 -
4* Deadpool is a really tough call, because when you ascend him, you mostly lose his passive, but get a TON of extra damage on his purple, which is one of the best mThor counters in the game. One cast of that is often enough to kill her.
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That passive is the only reason I use him at 4* level so is assumed I wouldn't ascend him, but you make a good point about his MThor countering prowess.
In a few years time when I have that decision to make it might be a toughie.
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Yes, he counters Jane.
He absolutely leaves you open on defense, too.
He's a character that works both as a 4 and a 5, a really good design.5 -
Well.. Last night I joined the ranks of having all classic 5-stars championed. I guess my next challenge is to get all of my ISO neglected 4, 3, and 2's championed. It would be nice to be post-ISO, though 4-star duplicates are going to be a thing with increasing frequency.
What are you post classic guys doing with your favorites and CP? Not sure who to target in 5-star land (currently targeting Okoye). Otherwise I'm thinking of targeting ascension candidates and just rebuilding my CP after spending it all on classics. Guessing classics will still be the eventual target.
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@Zalasta said:
Well.. Last night I joined the ranks of having all classic 5-stars championed. I guess my next challenge is to get all of my ISO neglected 4, 3, and 2's championed. It would be nice to be post-ISO, though 4-star duplicates are going to be a thing with increasing frequency.What are you post classic guys doing with your favorites and CP? Not sure who to target in 5-star land (currently targeting Okoye). Otherwise I'm thinking of targeting ascension candidates and just rebuilding my CP after spending it all on classics. Guessing classics will still be the eventual target.
Getting the meta 5s to 530+, then 550.
Work on one after the other.0 -
As of a month or so ago, I have all classics championed and am post iso. I'm targetting 4's that have good passives to ascend and Okoye. Right now I don't see any reason not to 550 Okoye, even though she's almost 20 levels higher than my next five. (I don't do PVP.)
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My 5* target is on Next Out of latest, and the times that catches up I usually move it around to whatever 5* is closest to gaining a level. I don’t really want any one character to run away from the pack on levels so my roster stays generally usable equally. Similar with 4* characters, it’s either a feeder for next out of there is one, or whichever character was closest to a reward I wanted. Until ascension there were very few 4* characters worth pushing up for their own sake, but that’s a whole other thing now. My current strategy on 4 shards is to push over the dupes on my ascendable 4s to champ+1 and then I just suboptimally ascend after getting the first LT off them.
I just got miles champed this morning, so I’m caught up again. At this point this thread kind of seems more interesting to track ascension progress to me.
Currently I have ascended:
4-to-5:
Chavez
Rogue
Medusa
Valkyrie
Peggy
Hulkbuster
Kate Bishop
Luke cage
Sabretooth
Gwenpool
Ghost rider
Nico
Shuri3-to-4
Deadpool
Psylocke2-to-3
Cap
1-to-2
Storm
Iron man
Spider-manSo far i haven’t jumped anybody up more than a single tier.
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I can't believe you had so many max 4*.
Uh, my current 5* target is Wasp (lvl 545). Probably nobody else should do that.
Basically I can pretty easily keep up with Latest guys just off LT (I open as I go) so my 5* favorite goes on whoever's closest to 550 now.
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I have way more Max 4s, those were just the ones with champed duplicates. I have remaining:
Coulson - dupe 5/4/0
Ant-Man - lvl273
Black Panther - lvl290
Black widow - 1/2/3
Blade - no dupe
Captain marvel - lvl289
Carnage - 0/1/0
Cyclops - 2/3/2
Dazzler - 0/3/1
Deadpool - 2/2/1
Elektra - 0/0/1
Emma Frost - lvl 307
Gamora - 4/4/3
Iceman - 5/3/3
Iron fist - 0/1/1
Jean grey - lvl273
Jubilee - lvl272
Juggernaut - lvl284
Karnak - 0/1/0
Kingpin - lvl283
Kraven - 1/2/1
Lockjaw - lvl288
Miles morales - lvl274
Mockingbird - 1/1/0
Moon knight - 2/2/2
Mordo - 3/3/2
Mr fantastic - 2/1/2
Nightcrawler - lvl275
Professor x - 4/1/3
Rocket and Groot - lvl278
Sam Wilson - 4/4/3
Sandman - 2/2/1
Spider-Gwen - lvl283
The thing - 0/0/2
Thor - no dupe
Vulture - lvl288
Wasp - 4/3/5
Winter soldier - 3/3/3 (current fav)
Wolverine - 5/0/3
X-23 - lvl2701 -
That's absolutely wild.
Everyone else: this is what happens when you're in Classics full-time. Go back like 10 or 20 pages on here and look at the state of roadwarrior's roster when he made the move to Classics, and where it's at now.
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I have about 14 more at 360 or above, about half of those above 365 I'd say. I think some of those are going to be wild ascended. I'm really looking forward to Panther getting over, and Carol as well. I'm very curious if my old 4* anesthaesiologist team of Vulture/Gamora/Sandman is going to work well at the 5* tier once they all can be ascended too.
Also Nightcrawler and Professor X are going to be really fun at 5* play. that team with Sersi, hitting at what will hopefully be 5* numbers, is going to be a good time in simulator.
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I will say that looking at my bottom tier lack of ascension, it's very apparant I was only growing single crops for my farm lol. I've been just flipping max champs as they hit the top and I have a backfill, so I'm usually pretty flatfooted on changes to the 3* tier feeders. But they don't feed very well, so that isn't a big deal to me. It did put me a ways behind some of y'all on growing 1-3 though.
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I have only ascended four 4s at the moment. I could ascend about eight more, I just haven’t yet. I’ll probably ascend Coulson very soon. I always liked playing him as a 4.
I’ve done quite a few 3s. I’m playing around with sharding 3 Bullseye for a long while to see how hard it will be for me to get a 3* ascended to a 5*. Who knows how long I’ll stick with this plan.
I think it’s great that I’m thinking about these characters again.
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