***** Spider-Gwen (Gwenom) *****

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  • SourCream
    SourCream Posts: 104 Tile Toppler

    Just a quick one, you guys can fill in the blank.

    https://streamable.com/4lozc7

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,343 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited June 2023

    I just got a token for taking Gwenom for a spin so it seems we have another play daily vault in game, presumably with Spider Verse characters.

    Edit: And yup...aint open yet!

  • Kolence
    Kolence Posts: 969 Critical Contributor
    edited June 2023

    Gwenom Purple is said to be making 1.25 and 1.5 web tiles per color (ranks 4 and 5, respectively) in the game ability description. Haven't tried it in play yet. If it is true, I'm truly baffled at this change (nerf).

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,343 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't have her black power but the purple is animation wise just Wong's with Spider characters and the red is EXACTLY the 4* version except she is has the symbiote costume. So low effort there.

    Her red does hit more than one character. It was almost like an AOE in that it downed two at once so it isn't as obvious as when Sabretooth/Apoc do their thing.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,343 Chairperson of the Boards

    Also - see Sour Cream's vid above, lol!

  • Histamiel
    Histamiel Posts: 167 Tile Toppler

    I also got a Token for using 3 star Spidey. The vault is not yet available.

  • SourCream
    SourCream Posts: 104 Tile Toppler

    https://streamable.com/4lozc7> @dianetics said:

    @SourCream said:
    Just a quick one, you guys can fill in the blank.

    https://streamable.com/4lozc7

    That was pretty wild. Your team took a truck ton of damage but the end result there was pretty sweet.
    I might just stick her behind steel witch and see what happens.

    Or you can use her with Chasm, she not going to create much web tiles on her own.
    And red is Chasm weakest color :D
    Gwen is like a ghost, very quickly she will tank no color at all.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,343 Chairperson of the Boards

    @BlackBoltRocks said:

    @SourCream said:
    Just a quick one, you guys can fill in the blank.

    https://streamable.com/4lozc7

    Wild. Chasm/Gwenom/Kang just became THE counter-meta team.

    Well until whatever happens to Chasm happens.

  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,246 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @BlackBoltRocks said:

    @SourCream said:
    Just a quick one, you guys can fill in the blank.

    https://streamable.com/4lozc7

    Wild. Chasm/Gwenom/Kang just became THE counter-meta team.

    Well until whatever happens to Chasm happens.

    You mean his buff nerf that makes him drain 4AP?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,343 Chairperson of the Boards

    @BlackBoltRocks said:

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @BlackBoltRocks said:

    @SourCream said:
    Just a quick one, you guys can fill in the blank.

    https://streamable.com/4lozc7

    Wild. Chasm/Gwenom/Kang just became THE counter-meta team.

    Well until whatever happens to Chasm happens.

    You mean his buff nerf that makes him drain 4AP?

    Well they did say there was more to come but if that turns out to be making more web tilles then...

  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards

    @SourCream said:
    Just a quick one, you guys can fill in the blank.

    https://streamable.com/4lozc7

    That battle only got a victory because of chasm spawning webs, and because matching a free move, if not kang would died and quickly the AP drained, losing 150k damage of the enhance.
    I wonder who could be a fan of the red power, I was expecting a vicious beating, and she just plays the drums.
    I get that the nerfed purple is because of future sinergies. This character so meh just needed more nerfs.

  • AlexR
    AlexR Posts: 453 Mover and Shaker
    edited June 2023

    @BlackBoltRocks said:

    @SourCream said:
    Just a quick one, you guys can fill in the blank.

    https://streamable.com/4lozc7

    Wild. Chasm/Gwenom/Kang just became THE counter-meta team.

    Eh. I mean, it's really nice to see this working and I commend @SourCream for showing it- very nice find, appreciated! This makes Symbiote-Gwen look better! Buuuut. But it needed both boosts and all of Kang's health to accomplish. All 180k of it.

    A counter needs to do its job safely, like Sabretooth vs Polaris/GRocket. Because the point of a counter is to be able to deal with the team it's countering easily and multiple times. If it can't do that, it's not a counter, it's just a team that won.

    This does not look safe and with Kang almost dead, you can only do it once before you have to healthpack. Therefore, unless it could be improved to be safer, I would not exactly call this a counter.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 719 Critical Contributor

    Can we get this animation treatment for Taskmaster pasted over the animations he's copying?

    Thanks.

  • Akoni
    Akoni Posts: 790 Critical Contributor

    @Blackstone said:
    Is it just cheaper to use the same characters, or advertise for other related media, than to make a new character for the game?

    I don't even care what she does at this point. I'll cover her, because I collect, and I don't want to miss anything, but I lost all interest at the reveal.

    We have several spiders, several symbiotes, even multiple Gwens, and Gwenom adds another tick to all three boxes.

    Meanwhile, there are hundreds of characters with rich histories and zero representation in game.

    Anyway, I'm just ranting. I'll collect because it's been part of my daily routine for too long, but my excitement is long gone for the game. I don't even bother with VIP anymore, which is something I did for a while as a means of simply supporting the game.

    To play devil's advocate, the MPQ team is beholden to what is approved or passed down from Marvel. Also, I think it's their goal to have representation at multiple tiers (i.e. the same character at different rarities). If that's their goal, then the releases make sense. This explains why they're releasing 5 and 3-star versions of the same character. I am not a huge fan of it but I get it.

  • Punisher5784
    Punisher5784 Posts: 3,845 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Akoni said:

    @Blackstone said:
    Is it just cheaper to use the same characters, or advertise for other related media, than to make a new character for the game?

    I don't even care what she does at this point. I'll cover her, because I collect, and I don't want to miss anything, but I lost all interest at the reveal.

    We have several spiders, several symbiotes, even multiple Gwens, and Gwenom adds another tick to all three boxes.

    Meanwhile, there are hundreds of characters with rich histories and zero representation in game.

    Anyway, I'm just ranting. I'll collect because it's been part of my daily routine for too long, but my excitement is long gone for the game. I don't even bother with VIP anymore, which is something I did for a while as a means of simply supporting the game.

    To play devil's advocate, the MPQ team is beholden to what is approved or passed down from Marvel. Also, I think it's their goal to have representation at multiple tiers (i.e. the same character at different rarities). If that's their goal, then the releases make sense. This explains why they're releasing 5 and 3-star versions of the same character. I am not a huge fan of it but I get it.

    Plus the new team is really pushing 3-to-5 feeders so it makes sense for most characters to have a different variant at each star tier

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,343 Chairperson of the Boards

    No 5* Rocket though. :( I guess it isn't impossible considering how many other Guardian characters got released long after though.

  • allen_koholic
    allen_koholic Posts: 105 Tile Toppler
    edited June 2023

    Yea, I’m disappointed with this release, but not because of the number of spider people already in game. My complaint is that the artwork itself is lazy, especially for such a visually well-designed character. The animations are lazy. The powers don’t feel like the comic character. And the three star looks almost identical to the four star. (They should have made Spiderpunk the 3star).

    Gwenom is a cool character. A Mary Jane carnage would also be cool. But this release is a dud.

    Also, the abilities not being named after songs is a huge miss.

  • MgoBlue51
    MgoBlue51 Posts: 117 Tile Toppler

    Imagine if she had a passive that limited the ability/resurrection/level of other spider verse characters? That would make her at least a good counter to the meta. It may be considered over powered, it was just a random thought. But rather than make her passive oddly terrible, there is/was opportunity to block or penalize chasm passives. Just spit balling here

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,862 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't think that passive is terrible at all, assuming it's the "0 match damage" one. That passive makes it so she'll never tank, which is extremely useful in certain team compositions.

  • MgoBlue51
    MgoBlue51 Posts: 117 Tile Toppler

    Just not a fan of how easy she'll be to dispose of... Just leave her for last, she's stuck if you have denied her active colors, unless you are using an ap drainer. I know we happen to have one out there...

    I guess it could add a little more puzzle back to the game, which is never a bad thing. Just feels like a lame duck character, her utility seems like she only works under some odd circumstances and with only specific teammates. Not a fan overall.

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