*** Ragnarok (Dark Avengers) ***

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Has anyone experienced this whereby you have 6 red covers but can't activate Ragnorak's Thunderclap?

    He's not stunned or incapacitated, but just can't activate it. icon_e_confused.gificon_e_sad.gif
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Was Star-Lord on the opposing team? Maybe his countdown was increasing the cost.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    ... but making it the T5 award in PvP sure isn't going to win you guys any new fans.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    d3p what are you even doing
  • hex706f726368
    hex706f726368 Posts: 421 Mover and Shaker
    it almost as if the rewards are random, without feeling random at all
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    hex706f726368 wrote:
    it almost as if the rewards are random, without feeling random at all
    I think they're pulling the ol' double-headed coin trick on us...
  • Kyllian
    Kyllian Posts: 29 Just Dropped In
    i recall some post that states the order the covers are placed is random...

    What puzzles me is that they redone the char, made a pve event around him, now they're giving him as pvp rewards, yet he is off the tokens pool...
  • ClydeFrog76
    ClydeFrog76 Posts: 1,350 Chairperson of the Boards
    You'd think they'd take control of the cover distribution when pimping a brand new ability for a character and trying to drum up interest in them again.

    I mean, this blue is horrible. Absolutely terrible. They should be handing it out like candy not holding onto it like Smeagol with his precious.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    This is really...hmm, what's the word I'm looking for here? Oh yeah! Dumb. This is really, really dumb.

    If this truly is the work of their randomly generated cover reward policy, it is a spectacular fail. It is a cry for help from the heart of the cosmos to please, for the love of Stan Lee, stop this madness. Insert some common sense back into the system before it's too late. If, on the other hand, this was done on purpose, well that's just hilarious on so many levels.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Serious question: Given recent comments on how Rags new blue may be a net detriment, has the optimal rags build become 5/5/0? If so, I'd be glad to soft cap him and warehouse him indefinitely, and put my scarce ISO elsewhere.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    camichan wrote:
    Serious question: Given recent comments on how Rags new blue may be a net detriment, has the optimal rags build become 5/5/0? If so, I'd be glad to soft cap him and warehouse him indefinitely, and put my scarce ISO elsewhere.

    It's only a detriment if you're expecting him to somehow fend off opponents on defense. There are probably better use for iso 8 than leveling him, but I sure wouldn't purposely not get a blue cover. While it's true Lightning Rod could potentially hand a game away on offense, unlike Power Surge, Lightning Rod isn't used to power anything so if it looks like a situation where Lightning Rod can be detrimental you can just not use it. This isn't like Thor's case where not using Power Surge makes Smite do laughably low damage. Obviously there will be situations where you've to take a chance but if I'm that desperate I'll live with the consequences.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Phantron wrote:
    camichan wrote:
    Serious question: Given recent comments on how Rags new blue may be a net detriment, has the optimal rags build become 5/5/0? If so, I'd be glad to soft cap him and warehouse him indefinitely, and put my scarce ISO elsewhere.

    It's only a detriment if you're expecting him to somehow fend off opponents on defense. There are probably better use for iso 8 than leveling him, but I sure wouldn't purposely not get a blue cover. While it's true Lightning Rod could potentially hand a game away on offense, unlike Power Surge, Lightning Rod isn't used to power anything so if it looks like a situation where Lightning Rod can be detrimental you can just not use it. This isn't like Thor's case where not using Power Surge makes Smite do laughably low damage. Obviously there will be situations where you've to take a chance but if I'm that desperate I'll live with the consequences.

    So 5/5/3 is a good bet for consensus on optimal coverage? (I had heard rumblings somewhere 3/5/5 was going to be, but that appears misled)
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Thugpatrol wrote:
    This is really... Dumb. This is really, really dumb.
    .

    Hide your kids, hide your wife and your husband, they **** everybody up in here
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    camichan wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    camichan wrote:
    Serious question: Given recent comments on how Rags new blue may be a net detriment, has the optimal rags build become 5/5/0? If so, I'd be glad to soft cap him and warehouse him indefinitely, and put my scarce ISO elsewhere.

    It's only a detriment if you're expecting him to somehow fend off opponents on defense. There are probably better use for iso 8 than leveling him, but I sure wouldn't purposely not get a blue cover. While it's true Lightning Rod could potentially hand a game away on offense, unlike Power Surge, Lightning Rod isn't used to power anything so if it looks like a situation where Lightning Rod can be detrimental you can just not use it. This isn't like Thor's case where not using Power Surge makes Smite do laughably low damage. Obviously there will be situations where you've to take a chance but if I'm that desperate I'll live with the consequences.

    So 5/5/3 is a good bet for consensus on optimal coverage? (I had heard rumblings somewhere 3/5/5 was going to be, but that appears misled)

    Neither Godlike Power nor Lightning Rod is all that great but I'd think Lightning Rod has a higher chance of being useful than Godlike Power. Since Ragnarok is never going to be in a heroic roster, you're just not going to find too many situations where enough other quality green users are missing so make Godlike Power a reliable pick, so you might as well go with Lightning Rod which at least can always accelerate green. I wouldn't worry about his covers either way because he sure doesn't look like he's going to be a go-to character you'd count on. Since most people probably already have 5/5/0 to start you might as well use 5/5/3 for a while and see it works out and it's not like you've to worry about blue Rag cover raining from the sky.
  • DFiPL
    DFiPL Posts: 2,405 Chairperson of the Boards
    Kyllian wrote:
    i recall some post that states the order the covers are placed is random...

    What puzzles me is that they redone the char, made a pve event around him, now they're giving him as pvp rewards, yet he is off the tokens pool...

    Unless I'm completely misunderstanding what's going on here (and I don't think I am) the cover rewards for the top 5 tiers (not counting the #1 overall reward) aren't random. The covers given out for a 2-150 finish are typically the characters due to have a PVP event next. I mean, that's anecdotal as hell, but I got Daken for a top 100 finish in the last event. Who's the required character for the next PVP? Daken.

    And that's a trend I've been noticing for the last several weeks, if not months.

    I'm gonna predict that the next PVP event is gonna be a Ragnarok event.
  • Druss
    Druss Posts: 368 Mover and Shaker
    I'll swap all 11 of my Ragnarok covers for the elusive BP Black.

    If not, I'll swap them for ..... well, anything really - He is now truly terrible
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    New powers are almost always "randomly" chosen to be Top 5 rewards in PvP??

    How convenient for D3. I call ****.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I wasn't a fan of rags before the rework and only used him when it was required. Now that he has been reworked I actually have found a use for him a few times as a replacement for mags to backup storm when he is unavailable. I don't mind the random factor of the powers and his high HP makes him better than mags as a tank for damage. Unlike a lot of the posts I have read I am satisfied. the new revamp has me pulling him of the shelf and dusting him of for us. good job.
  • SangFroid
    SangFroid Posts: 177 Tile Toppler
    Ok I won't argue that any increase in use is not a good thing. I will point out though that you are using him as a "replacement" for a 2 star.png . Rags is a 3 star.png that you are now using occasionaly when a "better" 2 star.png is not available. That is NOT a good thing and does not speak well for Rags.
  • Phaserhawk
    Phaserhawk Posts: 2,676 Chairperson of the Boards
    Phantron wrote:
    camichan wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    camichan wrote:
    Serious question: Given recent comments on how Rags new blue may be a net detriment, has the optimal rags build become 5/5/0? If so, I'd be glad to soft cap him and warehouse him indefinitely, and put my scarce ISO elsewhere.

    It's only a detriment if you're expecting him to somehow fend off opponents on defense. There are probably better use for iso 8 than leveling him, but I sure wouldn't purposely not get a blue cover. While it's true Lightning Rod could potentially hand a game away on offense, unlike Power Surge, Lightning Rod isn't used to power anything so if it looks like a situation where Lightning Rod can be detrimental you can just not use it. This isn't like Thor's case where not using Power Surge makes Smite do laughably low damage. Obviously there will be situations where you've to take a chance but if I'm that desperate I'll live with the consequences.

    So 5/5/3 is a good bet for consensus on optimal coverage? (I had heard rumblings somewhere 3/5/5 was going to be, but that appears misled)

    Neither Godlike Power nor Lightning Rod is all that great but I'd think Lightning Rod has a higher chance of being useful than Godlike Power. Since Ragnarok is never going to be in a heroic roster, you're just not going to find too many situations where enough other quality green users are missing so make Godlike Power a reliable pick, so you might as well go with Lightning Rod which at least can always accelerate green. I wouldn't worry about his covers either way because he sure doesn't look like he's going to be a go-to character you'd count on. Since most people probably already have 5/5/0 to start you might as well use 5/5/3 for a while and see it works out and it's not like you've to worry about blue Rag cover raining from the sky.

    Agreed. Red is the only "good' power the rest suck, but since red accelerates to blue I figure I might as well go 3 greentile.png 5 redtile.png 5 bluetile.png over time, but like Phantron said, I'm not going to go crazy over getting blue.

    Pure and simple, they have overestimated charged tiles to the same extreme as they underestimated them with 4hor. So they went very safe and have him only make 3 charged with the thinking, "he puts 9 AP on the board for 9 AP and gains health, this sounds right" except it's not. I hope they quickly buff his blue to create 5 charged tiles, since they are always green you can get away with less than 4hor who spread it over multiple colors.

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