Ascended Winners and Losers

entrailbucket

@WhiteBomber said:
I believe EntrailBucket has most 4's ascended, you can find him in the private alliance "clochards", always a decent place to check if you're curious.

His bird is at 490

• 92k health
• Red - 2 2 turn countdowns 73k damage, if only 1 62k damage and 16k damage to her
• Yella - no change
• Pink - destroy 8 ap generate 7 in your strongest. Passive - as long as you have 5 ap in your strongest deal additional 2600 match damage

So basically, almost fun but not great? If her abilities were cheaper (especially having 6 ap for her yellow passive) she could be a fun counter character, but she loses out hard for all of her costs.

Public alliance! If you see us with a spot open, feel free to join! No minimums or requirements -- but we don't allow buyclubs or merc-ing.

entrailbucket

Coulson @ 550 no boost:

entrailbucket

I think I posted about Ares before. With supports he's really hilarious. I used two different ones that can give 10 green if they both fire. Ares's green power at 672 does 18k per AP. So turn 0, I can hit your best guy for 180k!

Tiger_Wong

Man…. Ascended M’baku is raw asf. Baby champed lvl 450 and he just wrecks face and heals just as much. And he doesn’t take hard hits because of his damage mitigation. And the less health he has, the better all his abilities are. He might be the best tank now.

Teaming him with Killmonger and ascended Shaw in SS. Just running through every team without a Wanda or an all AOE team. So good.

entrailbucket

3* Iron Fist at 450 -- the rest of his abilities aren't too crazy, but this will be fun (should be 75k-ish when boosted)

rainkingucd

@entrailbucket said:
3* Iron Fist at 450 -- the rest of his abilities aren't too crazy, but this will be fun (should be 75k-ish when boosted)

How many 3a5 do you have? I'm working on Goose right now and as a FTP player, she's at 4* 360. A month or 2 and I'll have her at 5* but no other 3* is even close

Jinx

Just spent months making Magick my first 3>5* ascended and very disappointed because I forgot she does damage to her own team in Limbo because that damage was always pretty low. Now it is 4450 to each person on your team every turn. Don’t think I’ll even use her now if she’ll do over 13k passive self damage each turn.

Jinx

Never really used SW as much as everyone else. Wondering if she would help mitigate that damage and maybe brb as a third.

BriMan2222

@Jinx said:
Never really used SW as much as everyone else. Wondering if she would help mitigate that damage and maybe brb as a third.

Scarlet witch passive and protect tiles only reduce damage from the enemy, not self inflicted harm

Jinx

Yeah, just found that out. Wiped quickly

entrailbucket

@rainkingucd said:

@entrailbucket said:
3* Iron Fist at 450 -- the rest of his abilities aren't too crazy, but this will be fun (should be 75k-ish when boosted)

How many 3a5 do you have? I'm working on Goose right now and as a FTP player, she's at 4* 360. A month or 2 and I'll have her at 5* but no other 3* is even close

A few! I have Kang, Dr Strange, Magic, Deadpool, IM40, Iron Fist, Spiderman, Spider-Gwen, Emma Frost, Arcade, Hood, Kamala Khan, Patch Wolverine, Scarlet Witch, Spider-Rex, and Squirrel Girl (ok that's actually a lot more than I thought!).

Most of these are from buying those ridiculous ascension bundles that give you like 3000 covers. Some of them are from pulling the 270 that's in the season vault.

Jinx

Well this sucks. Protect tiles don’t seem to have any effect on Magick’s own team damage. Glad I wasted months ascending her. She’s trash.

entrailbucket

@Jinx said:
Well this sucks. Protect tiles don’t seem to have any effect on Magick’s own team damage. Glad I wasted months ascending her. She’s trash.

4000 damage per turn is not very much damage -- especially considering you're getting a global 250% match damage boost + her passive critical tiles every turn. If you manage to get her into limbo she should be wiping the entire enemy team in a few turns.

Who are you using her with?

slidecage

Thing didn't accend that good only 100k Heath

Jinx

Didn’t like the Magick thing because it’s team damage, so over 13k per turn and tried her with Switch and then with Apoc and BRB to prevent the damage, but neither worked. Don’t want to use her for clears because of the self damage. Ideally, you’d use her with a damage meta character, but they don’t mitigate power damage. Just won’t be able to use her for what I wanted. Wish I had chosen someone else. Emma is good. Devpool could be good.

Codex

Have you tried magik with 3may and m'baku? Both those can benefit from the self damage. Might have too much color overlapped or too slow.

entrailbucket

@Jinx said:
Didn’t like the Magick thing because it’s team damage, so over 13k per turn and tried her with Switch and then with Apoc and BRB to prevent the damage, but neither worked. Don’t want to use her for clears because of the self damage. Ideally, you’d use her with a damage meta character, but they don’t mitigate power damage. Just won’t be able to use her for what I wanted. Wish I had chosen someone else. Emma is good. Devpool could be good.

It sounds like you just chose the wrong character for your roster/what you're trying to accomplish.

Magik is very good, and very, very fast, though. Self damage powers in general are underrated, because lots of times they prevent damage. 4k per turn is much less than I'd take from, say, Omega Red, so if Magik helps kill him quickly I'm coming out way ahead.

WhiteBomber

@Jinx said:
Didn’t like the Magick thing because it’s team damage, so over 13k per turn and tried her with Switch and then with Apoc and BRB to prevent the damage, but neither worked. Don’t want to use her for clears because of the self damage. Ideally, you’d use her with a damage meta character, but they don’t mitigate power damage. Just won’t be able to use her for what I wanted. Wish I had chosen someone else. Emma is good. Devpool could be good.

I was disheartened by the amount of team damage at first also, fortunately though she is still really good before you're even in limbo and once in limbo no on survives long.

I personally use her as a board shaker / AP generator. Consider trying:

3 Magi, 5 Goose, 5 Heim - they can go infinite pretty quickly and you never have to take any of her team damage (I did a more detailed breakdown of this one in the fun teams thread, I love this team)

Her team damage isn't quite as annoying as Deathlok since you can actually avoid it by being airborne (away also of course). So, other generators and shakers who do this can be good, Vulture etc.

However, if you just want to end things quickly, she looooves Northstar, she is a top tier black generator and usually with Northstars, as soon as soon as you have 6 black, the match is on it's way to over.

Other wins of note:

• Spidermay actually dodges her team damage and creates protect tiles
• Bong can outheal her damage
• Her and 4 Beast have excellent synergy
• Add in supports and things can end very quickly

She is actually one of my favorite characters in the game and is a strong choice through all star levels, but the new 3 stars have definitely been surpassing her in value. Either way, hope that helps!

MirrorKnight

@Jinx said:
Well this sucks. Protect tiles don’t seem to have any effect on Magick’s own team damage. Glad I wasted months ascending her. She’s trash.

Try using her with Darkveil and Kang, have purple at 5 covers and grab some team-up AP and you should have a fast win.

BriMan2222

Maybe try teaming her with ascended mbaku. He likes increased match damage and doesn't mind getting low on health.