Champions 2.0 - Batch #2 Info

Ed_Dragonrider

Did you guys know that 2*Bullseye can also be ascended? Is this info I missed somewhere or just a lucky bonus?
Anyway, he can be ascended, I did it this morning cause I needed the roster space...

Scofie

I was so excited to get my 3rd 1* BW Yellow cover, only to realise I needed another 3... 😒

Daredevil217

@Bowgentle said:
aaaaand Coulson got fixed.
No more 18 swaps.
He kept his 5 CD tiles, though.

Did they fix Chavez? I didn’t ascend anyone from this batch. Without the broken rewards I'm cool with waiting for now.

Omegased

@Daredevil217 said:

@Bowgentle said:
aaaaand Coulson got fixed.
No more 18 swaps.
He kept his 5 CD tiles, though.

Did they fix Chavez? I didn’t ascend anyone from this batch. Without the broken rewards I'm cool with waiting for now.

She seems fixed for now. It went back and forth over the past few days, but her health is back above 80k

Altair22

anyone play with the ascendd Luke game base 4 to 5 stars ? Got danny rand ascended nothing much changed.

Tiger_Wong

@Altair22 said:
anyone play with the ascendd Luke game base 4 to 5 stars ? Got danny rand ascended nothing much changed.

The damage and special tile strength have gone up significantly with both.

And a couple unrelated Ascended things….

Elektra (unkillable) - her red damage seems the same. Mine is level 461 and is doing 3887 each turn. Working as intended?

Black Widiw (infinity war) - Defilade/Enfilade power has a written bug. At level 3, when you look at the preview of level 4 it says “destroys 4 enemy special tiles”. But at level 3, it already does that and says that.

And Mordo has been fixed now.

Altair22

@Tiger_Wong said:

@Altair22 said:
anyone play with the ascendd Luke game base 4 to 5 stars ? Got danny rand ascended nothing much changed.

The damage and special tile strength have gone up significantly with both.

And a couple unrelated Ascended things….

Elektra (unkillable) - her red damage seems the same. Mine is level 461 and is doing 3887 each turn. Working as intended?

Black Widiw (infinity war) - Defilade/Enfilade power has a written bug. At level 3, when you look at the preview of level 4 it says “destroys 4 enemy special tiles”. But at level 3, it already does that and says that.

And Mordo has been fixed now.

Yep actually very close to ascending the 4 star luke cage. so far among the 4s Ive ascended Moon Knight, Danny Rand, Cyclops, Agent Coulson, & Valkyrie.

The best ascended 4 to 5 in my opinion is Agent Coulson.

ThaRoadWarrior

Rogue is very good, as is Nico from the batch I've ascended. I haven't played with the corrected Chavez yet though; in fact I haven't tried to run most of these. Medusa is alright.

4 to 5 I've done:
chavez
rogue
medusa
valkyrie
peggy
hulkbuster
kate bishop
luke cage
sabretooth
gwenpool
ghost rider
nico
Shuri

dramatist

I’ve ascended 12 4*s so far. Red Hulk is great buffed and Nick Fury is great in the Ronan Event with his buff.

Bad

I've fought cyclops 4 and red hulk ascended boosted just to test it.
Huge match damage! Huge power damage! Huge health! They destroyed me.
The game is moving! Mind your FOMO folks.
And grind for good.

BriMan2222

@Bad said:
I've fought cyclops 4 and red hulk ascended boosted just to test it.
Huge match damage! Huge power damage! Huge health! They destroyed me.
The game is moving! Mind your FOMO folks.
And grind for good.

I fought against an ascended boosted red hulk and TA hulk the other day and TA hulk one-shot my full health 550 apocalypse with a single cast of his green power.

entrailbucket

@BriMan2222 said:

@Bad said:
I've fought cyclops 4 and red hulk ascended boosted just to test it.
Huge match damage! Huge power damage! Huge health! They destroyed me.
The game is moving! Mind your FOMO folks.
And grind for good.

I fought against an ascended boosted red hulk and TA hulk the other day and TA hulk one-shot my full health 550 apocalypse with a single cast of his green power.

Yeah I posted the number somewhere...mine is lvl471 pre boost, and boosted, his green is over 200k base, and up to 300k with the escalator. Red Hulk's base AoE is 35000 I think, and it's closer to 90k with the escalator there.

Also I'd like to shout out Maria Hill, who at lvl467 pre boost has some totally insane numbers. I can't check right now but I think her black is like 25k in strikes for 6ap.

KGB

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@Bad said:
I've fought cyclops 4 and red hulk ascended boosted just to test it.
Huge match damage! Huge power damage! Huge health! They destroyed me.
The game is moving! Mind your FOMO folks.
And grind for good.

I fought against an ascended boosted red hulk and TA hulk the other day and TA hulk one-shot my full health 550 apocalypse with a single cast of his green power.

Yeah I posted the number somewhere...mine is lvl471 pre boost, and boosted, his green is over 200k base, and up to 300k with the escalator. Red Hulk's base AoE is 35000 I think, and it's closer to 90k with the escalator there.

I looked at one of my retals and I was hit by a player using ascended Red Hulk. So I peeked at his team and his base level 475 Red Hulk boosted to 580ish had 200K health and was doing 90K AOE as you noted. I can only imagine what he'll look like at 550 boosted to 675.

KGB

Altair22

I think the developers made a mistake with the ascended one star base Black widow to 5 stars, the yellow power when she is five stars cost 15 yellow, should be 7

Tiger_Wong

@Altair22 said:
I think the developers made a mistake with the ascended one star base Black widow to 5 stars, the yellow power when she is five stars cost 15 yellow, should be 7

I noticed this as well along with her purple going from costing 13/15/16 at level 3/4/5 as a 1* to costing 8/10/13 after ascending.

I guess it’s working as intended? Idk. That yellow does a lot of damage but it still only targets 1 basic or CD tile.

Tiger_Wong

Here’s my quick write-up on the characters I’ve ascended:

Agent Coulson - a menace. A must-ascend character. More damage and he makes 4/5 1-turn CDs after a power has been fired? Let’s GO!

America Chavez - as good as expected. When she was a 4 I ran her at 3/5/5 but with her match damage upped, I really like her at 5/4/4. Must ascend.

Angel - only ascended to a 4* and his ability damage is yoked. Makes no sense tbh.

Black Widow (infinity war) - not much has changed but a worthwhile note is that her yellow drops powers by 4 AP and heals a MASSIVE amount of health (burst heal though)

Captain America (worthy) - his blue can really hit hard with enough charged tiles on the field. His yellow CD doesn’t change from level 4 to 5. Looks like a typo.

Cyclops (classic) - his red can really nuke with 10 TUP. So hard that going 5/5/3 should be highly considered.

Deadpool (uncanny x-force) - if his black threshold were lower like Red Hulk or 4* Valkyrie, Deadpool would be a SERIOUS PROBLEM. His black does BIG damage considering all that has to happen is your partner get hit past a certain damage threshold.

Elektra (unkillable) - her black isn’t as strong as 5* Elektra’s yellow and her red is strangely weak. Her purple is probably the star of her ascension as it gives a VERY HEFTY increase to the tiles she converts to strikes. She can only convert 2 tiles now tho.

Ghost Rider (Johnny blaze) - his penance stare was his best power before as it did 200% of the damage done by an enemy. Now it only does 86%. That is a HUMUNGOUS nerf. I wouldn’t ascend him.

Hawkeye (ronin) - I really think there’s something here but I haven’t figured out a team for him yet. His green is cheap and does decent damage for the cost. His red passive was always underrated and now it he attack tiles are stronger and the buff to them is significant.

Invisible woman - man does her green hit hard. Her strikes are pretty beefy too. 3/5/5 easy.

Iron Fist (Danny rand) - everything hits hard. His blue makes very strong strikes. With a few strong shields on the board, his black is a nuke of all nukes.

Iron man (hulk buster) - he makes strong tiles but man is it gonna take a minute to fire his powers.

Iron man (model 35) - his red hits super hard. His blue costs 19 AP. Does it even matter how hard it hits at that cost?

Karnak - ascend him ASAP. He becomes a wrecking machine after turn 4.

Kate Bishop - she hits SO Hard!!….. and the CD from her blue now has a condition where it kills an enemy if their health goes below 25%. If only it didn’t cost 12 AP! Argh!! Run her at 5/3/5. All her powers hit like a full-loaded truck at high speed.

Luke Cage (power man) - his red hits stupid hard but still costs 13 AP. His yellow is what I’m really interested in. It still has no ceiling on its damage and now hits harder.

Medusa - Hair Meddle is really good because the switch and buff are beefy. Her yellow gives a decent amount of burst heal. Her red tile is weak though. You can laugh off its damage.

Mockingbird - Bombshell is still a helluva nuke. I need to play around with the extra match damage on her purple more.

Moon Knoght (Marc Spector) - hits hard but just as pricey as the 5* MK. His purple is the star albeit a temperamental one.

Mordo - I think his purple is a little on the weak side.

Mr Fantastic - his yellow heal is very weak. His powers still have too many dumb conditions. I wouldn’t bother ascending him right now

Nick Fury - he’s ok. The recent nerf on his yellow is still felt. Put him at 3/5/5.

Nico Minoru - the best tile buffer in 5* land now. I would ascend her ASAP if you like 5* Kitty. Ascended Nico > Kitty.

Peggy Carter (captain America ) - legendary presence got nerfed from enemy powers costing +4 to +3. It saddened me.

Quake - her yellow has a very high team damage threshold. Pretty much the only reason to use her.

Red hulk - tough and his red threshold is acceptable and exploitable. And of course his green hits extremely hard.

Riri Williams (iron heart) - she may hit hard but her power costs are still high.

Rogue - a must ascendable character. Her defense vs cascades makes her incredibly valuable. She has a lot of health and if her green ever reaches 14 AP, something is going to the shadow realm.

Sabretooth - an anti-strike tile specialist and he only gets better and hits harder the more he ascends.

Sam Wilson (captain America) - he’s a lot like Riri. His red hits hard but it costs 14 AP. His blue only cuts the timer of CDs.

Shuri - her red passive is really great. Not much to speak of otherwise.

Talos - a very sneaky good character and AP thief. Ascend him with confidence.

The Hulk (main event) - a great meat shield. His yellow costs 12 and purple costs 14.

Hulk (totally awesome) - uhhhh…. His green hits so hard, it feels like a mistake.

The Thing - his passive’s threshold is too high imo. And his other powers cost 10 and 12 AP. Don’t bother.

War Machine - his red has beefy attack tiles. His green is stupid weak. I think it’s a mistake.

Wiccan - did his blue always generate AP when he destroyed a row? His green hits hard.

Winter Soldier - pretty much like Thing except without a passive. His powers hit extremely hard but are pricey.

rainkingucd

@Tiger_Wong said:
Here’s my quick write-up on the characters I’ve ascended:

Wiccan - did his blue always generate AP when he destroyed a row? His green hits hard.

Great write-up. On Wiccan: yes, once he converts to the Demiurge, his row clear has always been an AP gathering machine, as long as he's tanking. I'm really looking forward to ascending him as I like his kit, and with the ability to tank, heal, and clear he's going to be fun

Jinx

Thanks for the write up Tigerwong. That was fantastic. This is what I come to the forums for. Ideas on how to use characters and teams that work.

Jinx

BTW, you might consider Mordo with Wong and GR5*. He ends up being a good black battery and with them both being supernatural, Wongs red and strike tiles let them both throw out big damage, especially GR’s black.

Jinx

Who are you running Karnak with? Thought about Colossus and Cyclops to really up the match damage for those cries, but I feel like there should be better teams.