***** High Evolutionary (Awesome Mix Vol 3) *****

DAZ0273

Well if he is bugged at launch then I have even less chance of understanding him than I did when he was just on paper! Think I will just leave the shards where they are for now.

trenchdigger

I think I've worked out the maths for Evo's yellow.
It is the level difference divided by 295 (being 550 - 255) as 255 is the lowest level a 5* starts at.
In the above example posted by SourCream the difference is 100/295 = 33.9% and 33.9% * 140% = 47.46%, rounded down to 47%.

trenchdigger

I've tested quite a few different combinations of characters and the calculation in my previous post seems to work.

If you bring a 4*, the boost is calculated by level difference divided by 300 (370 - 70).
eg. my evo is lvl 300
I brought a bottom lvl 70 4*, and boost to their health was 230/300 = 76% (*50% for 1 cover yellow * base health).

I assume for 4* the boost is maxed at 300/300 ie. if my evo was above lvl 370 there would be no additional boost and the "up to lvl 550" in the description is 5* specific and for a 4* should read "up to lvl 370". I haven't been able to test this, so be good if someone with an evo above lvl 370 could post their results.

The reason I say this is because 3* and 2* would in theory get boosted by more than 100% compared to their maximum level ranges, but I don't see this happening in my tests.

Bowgentle

I'll just wait for people smarter than me to tell me what 5s to run him with to decide if he's good or not.
That yellow description hurts my brain.

DAZ0273

@Bowgentle said:
I'll just wait for people smarter than me to tell me what 5s to run him with to decide if he's good or not.
That yellow description hurts my brain.

I would say you are smart because this is the same genius plan I was going to implement!

SourCream

@trenchdigger said:
I think I've worked out the maths for Evo's yellow.
It is the level difference divided by 295 (being 550 - 255) as 255 is the lowest level a 5* starts at.
In the above example posted by SourCream the difference is 100/295 = 33.9% and 33.9% * 140% = 47.46%, rounded down to 47%.

I'm not good at reading and mathing, so I don't quite follow your logic. Why 550 - 255 ? I'm using a 450 Evo ...

Just for extra data-points.

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485 High Evolutionary + 550 Chasm + 640 Jeffrey

https://streamable.com/p44igy

Set @ 5 Yellows, about 30% gains

124,986 + 37,495 = 162,481

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485 High Evolutionary + 550 Chasm + 640 Jeffrey

https://streamable.com/vyvpa5

Set @ 3 Yellows, about 17% gains

124,986 + 21,247 = 146,233

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trenchdigger

@SourCream
The max boost of 140% for 5 yellow only applies to Evo at his lowest possible level of 255, provided the highest level character in the battle is level 550 or above.
If Evo is level 550 or above, no boost is applied.
It is a straight line scale between these 2 points.
Your Evo is 450 and the highest character is above the 550 threshold, so the boost is 100/295 * 140%.

trenchdigger

In your other date points:
485 Evo 37,495/124986 = 30%
(550-485)/(550-255) = 22% * 140% for 5 yellows = 30.8% (boost always seems to be rounded down to whole %

485 Evo 21,247/124986 = 17%
(550-485)/(550-255) = 22% * 80% for 3 yellows = 17.6% (boost always seems to be rounded down to whole %

SourCream

@trenchdigger said:
@SourCream
The max boost of 140% for 5 yellow only applies to Evo at his lowest possible level of 255, provided the highest level character in the battle is level 550 or above.
If Evo is level 550 or above, no boost is applied.
It is a straight line scale between these 2 points.
Your Evo is 450 and the highest character is above the 550 threshold, so the boost is 100/295 * 140%.

Case close, you're smart.

Tried :

550 550 485 EVO vs 530 530 530 , got bout 30% boost.
493 493 485 EVO vs 530 530 530 , got bout 21% boost.

trenchdigger

@SourCream can you try with a 4* to see if a highest % boost is possible

trenchdigger

The simple explanation for yellow is Evo gets boosted if anyone is higher level than him. Evo's teammates get boosted if Evo is higher than them.
Boosts aren't as great as initially expected as max % only applies at lowest possible lvl 255.

Evo should be levelled up, as at 450, the boost is only a max. of 47% as seen in SourCream's stream.
But level 550 v level 450 is a boost of 116% to all stats.
Also Evo's team mates only get boosted if Evo is a higher level than them.

dianetics

@trenchdigger said:
I think I've worked out the maths for Evo's yellow.
It is the level difference divided by 295 (being 550 - 255) as 255 is the lowest level a 5* starts at.
In the above example posted by SourCream the difference is 100/295 = 33.9% and 33.9% * 140% = 47.46%, rounded down to 47%.

If your math right he is legit garbage tier. His actives are not great and his potential is far worse than my initial assumptions. His active abilities are not great, so his major benefit was boosting him and his partners.

If he not gaining levels to boost his partners with him his value will be extremely minimal.

** edit. His boost is .47% per level not 1.4% per level. So his partner boost is .235% per level. Literally unnoticeable.

SourCream

@trenchdigger said:
@SourCream can you try with a 4* to see if a highest % boost is possible

370 4* + 485 Evo vs 570s

https://streamable.com/phsvvx

370 4* + 550 Evo vs 570s

https://streamable.com/mf1r4l

370 4* + 485 Evo vs 570s .... ability number check

https://streamable.com/vi8ycw

No ability boost....... so bug ?

SourCream

485 Evo + 270 4*

https://streamable.com/cby3bn

550 Evo + 270 4*

https://streamable.com/uwtm3e

130-ish % boost for 4* , health and base damage got boost, but ability numbers stay the same.

SourCream

I tried a few more, health and match damage will get boost with his starting passive and casting of yellow, but ability damage will not increase with both.

trenchdigger

Thanks @SourCream.

So for 4* the denominator is still 295.
ie. in first example, you have Evo lvl 485, 4* 370. 115 levels higher.

Boost is 115/295 * 140% = 54%
$*s are boosted from 32,031 health to 49,327 = 54% boost

Maths works for other examples as well.

DAZ0273

So he is as useful as bringing a cheese sandwich to a laser cannon battle.

No wait, the cheese sandwich is useful as a victory snack.

So he is like bringing a toddler to a laser cannon battle, evolving the toddler to toddler + laser cannon but you already had the laser cannon and don't ask where the toddler came from.

He is like bringing your third worst baseball player and then being able to upgrade them as long as they don't go higher than your 4th worst player which is you but they make you look better?

No I got it. He is like bringing a High Evolutionary to a non required High Evolutionary event just so you can level up a 3*?

I have no idea.

dianetics

If he is working as intended, then he is probably worse than Abigail Brand.

entrailbucket

Hey, I was right when I said he was either the best or the worst 5* in the game, or anywhere in between!

Now comes the best phase of a complicated character release: we try to figure out whether he's bugged or the power descriptions are wrong, or both!

ThisisClemFandango

Literally none the wiser when I first read it. It's like watching numberwang or quizzlestick.