***** Jeffrey (Symbiote) *****
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@DAZ0273 said:
Ninjas with an extra dose of Ninja.
I know I missed a couple node reads, all I got was that Wolverine was mad that we were bothering him.
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@Timemachinego said:
@DAZ0273 said:
Ninjas with an extra dose of Ninja.
I know I missed a couple node reads, all I got was that Wolverine was mad that we were bothering him.
Wolverine gets killed by The Hand/Gorgon and then brought back to life except now he is crankier and evil. He attacks the heroes for what feels like about 6 weeks - for some reason Daredevil is a "top target" at some point because of his, uhm, battle sticks I guess. The heroes capture Wolverine and he goes back to being a goody but still cranky. Wolverine beats up The Hand/Gorgon. Kang ruins everything (MPQ version only!). The end.
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@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I don’t know that there are too many characters who can’t win at all in that way, but Archangel came out with that airborne shutdown power for one assumes Vulture at the time, who I don’t know really needed a 5* counter too.Archangel vs Vulture is how it ended up, but unfortunately according to them Demiurge originally intended Archangel as a counter against Gambit together with InfiniCap. Neither worked, because those were active abilities supposed to counter the oppressive passive of a character who drained your AP.
It's a great example about counter design, especially when you compare it with counters that actually work (Chasm/Sabretooth/Morbius vs GRocket, for example) or how Archangel himself ended up a successful counter vs something else (Vulture, who gets hit by the passive part of Archangel's kit). Generally, if you want to make a counter to something fast and oppressive, you'll need a passive to do it, not an active.1 -
The Archangel counter to Gambit also betrayed their 57th attempted (but abandoned) re-balance of him by giving away his new power: Jet pack!
Cards...from above!
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I still can't believe that their first "nerf" to Gambit was ADDING AP DRAIN TO STACKED DECK.
So they buffed him instead of nerfing.
After six months.
Then it took another 6 months to finally kill him.5 -
That was pretty amazing. I’m not sure who else that archangel passive would have been aimed at at the time, since only a few 4* characters were able to apply the Airborne status then, and only Vulture was doing anything beneficial with it (high AP gain with a mild self sustain)
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3* Colossus! He was tossing people all over the place with his Fastball Special! Shut that sucka down!
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Riri and Nova comes to mind.
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I wouldn't have wanted to be at the meeting when they told Archangel that, y'know that airbourne counter you do? Yeah, we're giving that to Elsa Bloodstone AND she can also shoot invisible things too. Look now come on Warren...you still have metal feathers. That isn't NOTHING. Don't take it so personally...
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What was this thread about again?
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it seems to be about how a dude whose whole deal is being able to fly and shoot razor blades out of his wings from the air was instead given the ability to prevent other characters from flying rather than himself being able to fly.
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Iron Man can reach space. Silver Surfer can surf through space. War Machine can fire missiles. Star-Lord has an actual space ship. Even Alpha Flight, Marvel's 11th best team, has people who can fly. But only Archangel can hit OTHER flying things.
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It’s Land Shark. source mpq twitter
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So, this is just an adorable shark with one decent, cheap power (green); a knock-off Eye of Agamotto; and a red that I will never bother to remember or care about?
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@allen_koholic said:
So, this is just an adorable shark with one decent, cheap power (green); a knock-off Eye of Agamotto; and a red that I will never bother to remember or care about?They had me at "adorable shark" though.
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Fact. Still wished adorable shark's kit looked more promising, because I want lots of excuses to use adorable shark.
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So, if I want to finish Kang, I'll be pulling Kang-Magik-Shark? Yikes.
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So logically it would be Gwenpool as the middle feeder.
But kind of hilarious if Jeff fed Gwen, but Agent Venom feeds Symbiote Jeff
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