Polaris has ruined PVP???
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Warbringa said:Depends on where you are at with your roster. I love facing Polaris teams in PvP because they are free wins. You can reasonably kill her very quickly with many 5* just based on match damage. You then have an instant 3 vs 2 advantage, which swings the fight greatly to your team, even if the other two are BRB and Kitty. If you don't have good 5*, then yes this team would be rough to face and defeat as letting Polaris stay around for a few extra turns is death.
The trick to beating a Polaris team, as Warbringa says, is to take out Polaris first, then focus all of your attention on the next big threat. The only exception is P-Carbage. Focusing on Polaris first might get you slaughtered. When I shifted my focus to taking out Carbage first, I started winning more against that team.0 -
Hulk-bombing still work against R4G and Polaris. Matches end really fast.0
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I browsed 50 opponents in Shield, 40 were BRB/ Kitty/Polaris, 10 were Hulkoye/3rd meta. I understand what he’s saying , who wants to face the same two teams 75 times ?2
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That's a misunderstanding. What's happening is that you are probably part of the top scorers, so the game gave you similar rosters and scoring to match against you. Unfortunately, those are the ones available. And if you take note of the names of those opponents, you will realise that 90% are the same batch of opponents. For every 50 opponents that you see, about 5 are unique opponents.0
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HoundofShadow said:That's a misunderstanding. What's happening is that you are probably part of the top scorers, so the game gave you similar rosters and scoring to match against you. Unfortunately, those are the ones available. And if you take note of the names of those opponents, you will realise that 90% are the same batch of opponents. For every 50 opponents that you see, about 5 are unique opponents.1
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Akoni said:Warbringa said:Depends on where you are at with your roster. I love facing Polaris teams in PvP because they are free wins. You can reasonably kill her very quickly with many 5* just based on match damage. You then have an instant 3 vs 2 advantage, which swings the fight greatly to your team, even if the other two are BRB and Kitty. If you don't have good 5*, then yes this team would be rough to face and defeat as letting Polaris stay around for a few extra turns is death.
The trick to beating a Polaris team, as Warbringa says, is to take out Polaris first, then focus all of your attention on the next big threat. The only exception is P-Carbage. Focusing on Polaris first might get you slaughtered. When I shifted my focus to taking out Carbage first, I started winning more against that team.
Of course, it's not all that bad. There certainly are other characters that can be useful against her, just perhaps not as reliably, e.g. Chavez, Karnak, Medusa, Mr. Fantastic, Nick Fury, The Thing, Deadpool. In fact it can be fun just finding non-meta teams to beat her, even if it's not particularly quick.
As for the comment from someone else about her speeding up PVE, to me that just highlights the issue with PVE that we're forced to grind the nodes multiple times if we want to get all the progression rewards.0 -
Honestly, I agree with this.I don't have any problems beating Polaris, it's pretty easy climbing on Polaris teams. But the problem is, that 4* land currently consists of nothing but Polaris teams and it made pvp really boring and really same-y.Sapped my will to play pvp entirely.
And no, previous meta wasn't this bad in 4* land, previous meta usually still had a lot of boosted characters mixed in. I liked pvp because every week was a little different with boosted characters. With Polaris, there's... really not. It's just Polaris all day every day. So it means every week is just "climb on Polaris, play anti-Polaris team all the way", period.
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I tried a Teen Jean and Hulkbuster combo because they were both champed and boosted. Meh, no thank you. Both may have been considered good once upon a time, but now even with them boosted PvP takes too long and I spend most of it frustrated at the colors of matches. Though once I was happy that Jean stopped a cascade in its tracks. But yeah, Polaris helps me grind out PvP and PvE and maintain a pathetic life outside MPQ.
I do see a few boosted characters when I reach top 5 still, so saying they’re gone and only Polaris based teams remain is a bit of an overstatement. I also saw a relatively high number of boosted 5* with high point offers in the last couple of PvP events. The diversity is there if you look for it. Probably just as much as when Grocket and Kitty/Gamora or Carol, Blade, and Medusa were everywhere.
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Back in early 2018, R4G/GotG/Medusa was the trio when I was in 3* land. Throw in some Mr Fantastic and Carnage with Medusa as a mixture.
America Chavez came in late 2017 and was pretty popular, but not that common.
After that, Kitty came in Sept 2018 and she and R4G was common in pvps and there were complains coming from even 5* players.
Bishop came next and dominated in late 2018 and 2019.
Juggernaut came in Aug 2019 and dominated with R4G. He was everywhere in pvps. Like Polaris, he made pves much easier.
CapWorthy came a month after him and was part of the meta.
Karnak with Chavez and Juggernaut/R4G largely dominated the meta in pvps fro. Late 2019/early 2020 until Polaris appeared in September 2020.
What's common among them is the same exact complain being brought up every now and then.
Same complain, different flavours.
Polaris has dominated the meta for about 6-7 months. Come to think of it, I think a change in 4* meta should be around the corner.
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fractalvisions said:Akoni said:Warbringa said:Depends on where you are at with your roster. I love facing Polaris teams in PvP because they are free wins. You can reasonably kill her very quickly with many 5* just based on match damage. You then have an instant 3 vs 2 advantage, which swings the fight greatly to your team, even if the other two are BRB and Kitty. If you don't have good 5*, then yes this team would be rough to face and defeat as letting Polaris stay around for a few extra turns is death.
The trick to beating a Polaris team, as Warbringa says, is to take out Polaris first, then focus all of your attention on the next big threat. The only exception is P-Carbage. Focusing on Polaris first might get you slaughtered. When I shifted my focus to taking out Carbage first, I started winning more against that team.5 -
Chase Morbius - he is seriously excellent against special tile teams. He shuts Gritty down easily, mine isn't even Champed yet. He wrecks Polaris too. Of course facing the same character time after time is tedious but PvP has always been about meta teams and Polaris just happens to be excellent. I do feel (boosted 5 being a wait and see) that we have a pretty varied PvP rock paper scissors right now and there is no 100% guaranteed success team which is how it should be.3
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Hi. Relative newb here, as I just picked the game up in November. I have Hulkbuster and Juggs champed, but my Polaris is at level 229 ( 3/4/4 and 395 shards).I understand and have felt the OP's frustrations with Polaris. When I was working on building up my 4's, I saw Polaris almost every match, and the matches tended to be decided upon if I could stun her before she got the one big cascade to win the game. She's what currently drives the 4* meta; if you don't have her, it's an uphill battle, and for a long time, I didn't have mine playable yet. But as I played mine more and played against her more, I found other ways to counter her. I especially like to bring Cap Marvel-3/Polaris against Polaris/BRB due to CapM's low cost Red ability destroying all of the shields. Yes, she is beatable, you just gotta figure out how. But you almost have to bring Polaris to beat her, which is the crux of the problem.
But honestly, I knew that I couldn't compete with players that have been playing a lot longer than I have, so I was happy to make a top 50 or top 25 in a pvp event, and i still am. I'm happy to get the progression awards, as that's what drives me. Complaining about other squads you face doesn't get you anywhere. You gotta learn to beat them. So thank you to everyone that has offered advice here. After I get the final 5 shards to get my Polaris to 12 covers, I'll switch my shards to Morbius and work on playing him more.
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Morbius is excellent for to counter her, only problem is he was released pretty later and people usually dont have him at high levels, still Im starting to see him on SIM 5* land.
And as all people say, she is pretty easy to beat.
You can only blame that you are not really committed to this game and your polaris is low.
I have a polaris L 364 and I didnt waste a penny on her, just playing and shargeting.
And she is great because playing smartly(important word in this game),she can be fast and lethal, and that it is everything on this game.
MPQ should give some briefing on how to play pvp because it is not easy, although players truly interested should learn in this forum, too.2 -
Work on 4* Rocket next. Morbius can come later. There are other 3* that can counter Polaris, such as Hawkeye, Hulk.
If you can get Polaris and 4* Rocket up, I can assure you that you can get top 10 in PvP up till scl 9. At worst, it's top 25. All you need is between 800 to 900 point and put up a shield.0 -
> Polaris has ruined PVP???
To answer the only question you actually asked... No.0 -
As someone who went through the 3* to 4* to 5* transition on their main account (Day 1705) years ago and who just champed their first 5* (Kitty) on their alt account (Day 534) a few days ago, Polaris has been such a positive for the game.
Back in the day, if the 4* boost list sucked or you didn't have any boosted 4* champs, you were basically not going to enjoy PVP that week. Now with Polaris, 4* rosters can easily hit that 900 (maybe even higher) without needing to worry about the boost list. Plus Polaris' health is not that high, so you can take her down pretty easily. She's also a great partner for several 5* characters, which is great for those transitioning to 5* land.
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Out of curiosity, how does Polaris stack up with the 5* when everyone is boosted to 550? I’m not seeing anyone with a fully covered Okoye or iHulk in my list, though perhaps that will change in my retals.0
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These are the Polaris related teams in BoP:
BRB/Kitty
BRB/Apocalypse
BRB/Medusa
BRB/Carbage
Kitty/Carbage
Kitty/R4G
Carbage/Medusa
7 teams made up of 7 unique characters.
For every iHulkoye team out there, I see 4 to 5 Polaris teams.
Boost doesn't affect your MMR. So you will still see whoever is your typical MMR.1 -
Oh yeah, I knew about MMR and scaling. I was more curious about whether Polaris would supplant Okoye as the best character in the game all things being equal. My relatively low MMR is the reason I had to ask. If you see that many Polaris teams I guess she does.
This is the first PvP where I broke MMR and didn’t get annihilated instantly.0 -
This is based on level 45x MMR. I remember someone saying 47X MMR is different, but I'm don't know how true it is. So, you need to wait for someone with at least three to five 5* at those levels.0
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