It's Us, Deadpool Offer

Dragon_Nexus

bluewolf said:

The devs have hinted that it will be clear later what they are doing.  I dunno.

See, that's not good. The customer/business relationship is very important, and you cannot say to your customers "We're going to experiment on you and not tell you anything about it. But...trust us, yeah? =D"

It's anti-consumer, even if the end goal isn't that. Treating your customers like lab rats rarely goes down well.

Being up front and transparent with these matters goes a lot further, because otherwise people start speculating. And people are often pessamistic, so they'll speculate that there's some nefarious scheme going on. then when the truth comes out the population has made up their mind as to what the real truth is and you come across as a liar for telling the truth because it defies the established narrative.

Nothing abut this will end well.

Vins2

Good for you guys who are trying to find the good side of this, or are even sugar coating your criticisms by saying it's only a little over the line.  This is greedy as hell to me.

Arix90

Has anyone got any offera after mutant mayham? (I have that one on my queue now probably not buying it)

Blackstone

So much complaining........

It's their game and they can do whatever they want.

Yes, I agree there are better ways they could have done some things, but I don't understand this apparent need to whine about things.  If your criticism is constructive then, by all means, give it and move on.

If you don't like the offers, don't buy them.  If you want to see what's next, do buy them.  Either way make a decision and move on.... Unless you're ten years old.... In that case, go ask a parent.

In the end, it really isn't worth getting this worked up over.  So, if this is stressing you, in any way, remember that it's just a game and you really can just pass on the offers and be done with it.

Dragon_Nexus

Blackstone said:

So much complaining........

It's their game and they can do whatever they want.

And no-one's arguing that.

You could go to your local supermarket and find they stock nothing but gravy cubes now. They can do what they want!

You gonna shop there any more? Probably not.

We're complaining because this situation isn't good. We're voicing our opinions so they know why this isn't good. If this whole thing doesn't bother you then that's fine, but coming into the topic to complain that we're complaining is kinda hypocritical, especially since you're not being constructive at all. Plenty of people in this thread are, however.

JHawkInc

Blackstone said:

So much complaining........

It's their game and they can do whatever they want.

Actually, they can't just do whatever they want. These actions are not performed in a vacuum. If they make bad decisions and people stop spending, they stop being profitable, Marvel cancels the license, and then it won't be their game anymore, and we won't have a game to play.

It is just a game, the people who are disappointed are voicing their opinion because they would like it to remain a game, instead of disappearing into the ether.

No one benefits from you telling people to not voice their opinions, so why do it?

randomhero1090

I wish I had this kind of feedback in my business.  There's been a lot of common themes in this thread.  I'd assume they are paying attention.

Spudgutter

JHawkInc said:

It is just a game, the people who are disappointed are voicing their opinion because they would like it to remain a game, instead of disappearing into the ether.

No one benefits from you telling people to not voice their opinions, so why do it?

I think you missed. The other part of Blackstone's post

Blackstone said:

Yes, I agree there are better ways they could have done some things, but I don't understand this apparent need to whine about things.  If your criticism is constructive then, by all means, give it and move on.

Its the "constructive criticism" part that is lacking in some posts.  I even agree, that this is not the best way to do it. So I will vote with my wallet and not buy any of them.

Blackstone

Dragon_Nexus said: 

Blackstone said:

So much complaining........

It's their game and they can do whatever they want.

And no-one's arguing that.

You could go to your local supermarket and find they stock nothing but gravy cubes now. They can do what they want!

You gonna shop there any more? Probably not.

We're complaining because this situation isn't good. We're voicing our opinions so they know why this isn't good. If this whole thing doesn't bother you then that's fine, but coming into the topic to complain that we're complaining is kinda hypocritical, especially since you're not being constructive at all. Plenty of people in this thread are, however.

I offered my opinion earlier in the thread, and included within the comment that you partially quoted my opinion that they could find a better way to do things.  So, I'm not being hypocritical, and the accusation is uncalled for.  

I disagree with the format in which they are making these offers, and think they should spread them out more and remove the time limit.  I hope they reconsider some things and make changes, but I'm not going to attack the company if they don't do what I want because that just adds toxicity.

Further, I hope that people do continue voicing their opinions, but in a constructive manner because that should get more positive results than attacks on the company.

Some are being constructive, and that's great, but many are not.

As for your supermarket analogy: if people stop shopping, and tell them why in a concise manner the supermarket would have to change something to stay in business.  Attacking management wouldn't really change anything.

Also, I am being constructive and I believe you could see that if you are able to take what I'm saying in context, instead of finding something to attack me over and just sticking with that while ignoring the rest of what I'm saying.  (Ex. Calling me hypocritical, unconconstructive, complaining about complainers)

If I've upset you, I apologise.  My intent was to Foster more constructive feedback, not to anger anyone.  Apparently, I failed in that and will try to be more concise in the future.

Blackstone

JHawkInc said:

Blackstone said:

So much complaining........

It's their game and they can do whatever they want.

Actually, they can't just do whatever they want. These actions are not performed in a vacuum. If they make bad decisions and people stop spending, they stop being profitable, Marvel cancels the license, and then it won't be their game anymore, and we won't have a game to play.

It is just a game, the people who are disappointed are voicing their opinion because they would like it to remain a game, instead of disappearing into the ether.

No one benefits from you telling people to not voice their opinions, so why do it?

Again, I'm not telling anyone to stop voicing their opinions.  People can do whatever they like, I just think some could do it in a more constructive manner.  In fact, I hope people continue to voice their opinions, I just don't think it's helpful to do so in an aggressive manner.

And, yes, they can do whatever they want.  It does effect the players, but it's still up to the company how they run their game.

NeonBlue

Anyone got info on any new pack that came out? I didn't buy Mutant Mayhem, so I don't know what's being offered going forward.

LavaManLee

I just can't pull the trigger on any of them.  It is way too much money (for me) even though some of the offers would help.

The only thing I can think is it is set up for new whales.  People with lots of money who don't want to spend the time to build up their roster.  So they don't have Iceman, X-23, etc. at a decent level.  This is a shortcut to get some older characters at high levels quickly.

The thing I don't understand is why there is no announcement within the game?  Do they assume every whale is either on this forum or Discord?  Why not announce "Once you buy one pack then another one will appear".  How do they expect people to know this who aren't on the forums/discord.

I get that it is a money grab but it is a very odd money grab where people who might actually spend money don't know that there is more to spend it on then what you see at first.

bbigler

Are there any whales on this forum?  You know, people who spend $100 - $500 a week on this game?

Twomp_thaDJ

bbigler said:

Are there any whales on this forum?  You know, people who spend $100 - $500 a week on this game?

Naw they got their own forum lol

VoltaicDuke

Any info on the wakanda pack?

nordhofsweden

DAZ0273 said:

I could be wrong but also pretty much none of these guys are 5* feeders, right? Vulture? Maybe I'm getting cynical but you would have thought that would have been an extra incentive for hundreds of $. Or maybe not.

Vulture = Peter Parker
Kate Bishop = Hawkeye

Yepyep

smkspy said:

I'll just take my slow 4 star farm and 3 star dupe farm progression since I'm a 5 star player now.

Don't need expensive monthly turbo boosts to spend along roster development just for champ levels and lousy 3 star supports.

This is the very definition of predatory sales tactics to me. For the record, not against these bundles, but the implementation is just evil.

Actually, this is like part of the motivation for why they're doing it -- why they're looking for new revenue sources. Players like yourself, some/many of whom were once whales (though not necessarily you, @smkspy), no longer have any real incentive to spend on the game. Post-ISO, post-HP, etc. with only new 5*s really left to chase. Even the marginal advantage of increasing 5* champ levels isn't great enough really to matter much...

smkspy

Yepyep said:

smkspy said:

I'll just take my slow 4 star farm and 3 star dupe farm progression since I'm a 5 star player now.

Don't need expensive monthly turbo boosts to spend along roster development just for champ levels and lousy 3 star supports.

This is the very definition of predatory sales tactics to me. For the record, not against these bundles, but the implementation is just evil.

Actually, this is like part of the motivation for why they're doing it -- why they're looking for new revenue sources. Players like yourself, some/many of whom were once whales (though not necessarily you, @smkspy), no longer have any real incentive to spend on the game. Post-ISO, post-HP, etc. with only new 5*s really left to chase. Even the marginal advantage of increasing 5* champ levels isn't great enough really to matter much...

Maybe so, but it also puts off players like myself of wanting to purchase these bundles. I bought all the previous bundles...but them being spaced out helped to soften the grand total effect. These back to back bundles, ever increasing in price, make it plain and clear that buying them is gonna be $200.

Couple that with timed windows and being dependent on buying a previous pack, this is just terrible marketing and an ultra easy way to alienate customers like me that have been supportive of bundles in the past.

The vagueness of it all to players not on line or the forums especially lends itself to predatory sales tactics. 

Though to be clear, in no way against such bundles, but their implementation is almost as bad as the rollout of supports.

Drlex

I bought the villains pack, but I don’t know if I want to buy the next pack presumably the one with teen jean and others. Is there one after that? If so what is it?

bluewolf

People haven’t seen anything after the Mutant pack. It seems like that’s the last offer.