Top Gun May 07 - May 09 (Season 1)

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  • morgh
    morgh Posts: 539 Critical Contributor
    Bowgentle wrote:
    morgh wrote:
    Why do "top" rosters even care for the season rewards? You actually need those 10-packs? icon_e_biggrin.gif
    Even the ISO or HP rewards are NOT significant...

    Have to say - everything d3 brings just makes more covers get sold instead of going to people who don't have them..

    EDIT: Oh right - forgot - bragging rights are so important...
    Fury.
    I don't care about the single rewards, I'm working my butt off for that Fury cover.

    I'm sorry but this is not a serious answer icon_e_wink.gif

    Top 100 alliances get Fury - not top 10 or 15 =]
  • gamar wrote:

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    In seriousness though, LRs are nerfed, the new PvP MMR shows you level 120+ teams when you get anywhere close to top 10 (and beyond that gives ONE two star cover)... for all the complaining we got about NOOBS in the Simulator, PvE looks like literally the only place left where someone without a 3* roster can develop their team at all... not even talking about getting first place, but about getting ANYTHING worthwhile icon_neutral.gif

    Which wouldnt be so bad, but the PVEs run a week or longer. If they cylced a little more quicker ala the PVP, we could at least farm covers(albeit slowly) there until we were ready with a 3* team to push higher in PVP.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    morgh wrote:
    Bowgentle wrote:
    morgh wrote:
    Why do "top" rosters even care for the season rewards? You actually need those 10-packs? icon_e_biggrin.gif
    Even the ISO or HP rewards are NOT significant...

    Have to say - everything d3 brings just makes more covers get sold instead of going to people who don't have them..

    EDIT: Oh right - forgot - bragging rights are so important...
    Fury.
    I don't care about the single rewards, I'm working my butt off for that Fury cover.

    I'm sorry but this is not a serious answer icon_e_wink.gif

    Top 100 alliances get Fury - not top 10 or 15 =]
    Yeah, and my alliance is rank 89 right now.
  • morgh
    morgh Posts: 539 Critical Contributor
    Oh... well that's fair game I think icon_e_biggrin.gif

    What do Shield/5dv/django etc have to say though? ^_^
  • scottee
    scottee Posts: 1,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    What's wrong with an alliance trying to get as high in the rankings as possible? That's they're prerogative. This game is a competition, not a charity.

    My alliance will have to work hard just to secure a Fury. I want as many people as possible to get the 3* progression awards in the Simulator. But that doesn't mean alliances need to be questioned/shamed for "taking covers they don't need". They don't need 2* prizes either. Or recruit tokens. Or any of the other prizes. That doesn't mean they shouldn't compete to be the top alliance. That's what competition is all about.
  • morgh
    morgh Posts: 539 Critical Contributor
    Yeah - that's a good excuse to tell to yourself.

    I bet that it also just feels good when you think "I got those 3 covers which mean additional 1500 ISO and one person less who would otherwise be that bit closer to being able to compete"
  • scottee
    scottee Posts: 1,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    You're really saying top alliances should not compete for top prizes so others can have them instead?

    Made the competition in this game isn't for you. There's another match-3 game that doesn't have alliances. I hear it's pretty popular and even has candy and stuff in it.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    morgh wrote:
    Yeah - that's a good excuse to tell to yourself.

    I bet that it also just feels good when you think "I got those 3 covers which mean additional 1500 ISO and one person less who would otherwise be that bit closer to being able to compete"

    I personally do it for the extra hp: contributing to my alliance and netting hp in the tournament is more than enough reason to aim for a top rank despite not needing the covers.
  • morgh wrote:
    Yeah - that's a good excuse to tell to yourself.

    I bet that it also just feels good when you think "I got those 3 covers which mean additional 1500 ISO and one person less who would otherwise be that bit closer to being able to compete"
    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but if not grow up. the HP from placing higher is more useful to them than the rest of the stuff, you think because they have a max 3 star roster they are gonna quit playing in events? And some of their alliance members probably could use the rewards even if they can't.
  • Also, almost everyone needed the Falcon covers in the Doom tourney. It wasn't just players pushing for season scores.
  • morgh
    morgh Posts: 539 Critical Contributor
    I just bet that those 200 HP are going to be of so much use to people getting 250 HP every 3-day PvP event icon_e_wink.gif

    You guys are the same type of people who in WoW justify corpse camping - "it's there, it's not forbidden, I can do it - so don't you dare saying anything against it" icon_e_wink.gif

    Also - I do not recall attacking anyone personally so why wouldn't you stick to properly discussing instead of telling me to "grow up" :O

    EDIT: Of course I understand that the Doom event was having Falcon and this is absolutely exempt from what I am pursuing here - however THIS event has Patch - and so far only 1 person mentioned taking it easy this since they have it fully covered icon_e_wink.gif
  • wathombe wrote:
    Also, almost everyone needed the Falcon covers in the Doom tourney. It wasn't just players pushing for season scores.

    Yep - if it was just seasons you'd see a big gap between 1-3 and 4-10. When 10th is pushing 1000-1100 in many brackets, you know it's the covers driving the action.
  • scottee
    scottee Posts: 1,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    morgh wrote:
    EDIT: Of course I understand that the Doom event was having Falcon and this is absolutely exempt from what I am pursuing here - however THIS event has Patch - and so far only 1 person mentioned taking it easy this since they have it fully covered icon_e_wink.gif

    Someone not trying hard in an event because they don't need the prize is different than someone not trying hard because they want others to get the prize.
  • how is this in any way bad, if EVERYONE in their alliance already had patch maxed MAYBE but even then they need to work to get fury, and the HP helps at any point in the game.

    I don't have maxed 3 stars. any of them. but I don't care that people are competing, you think anyone in other games NEEDS to try for top placing? it's just for the glory or w/e at least here you have rewards that are somewhat useful to them at any point.
  • morgh
    morgh Posts: 539 Critical Contributor
    I somehow connect those two things - if I don't need covers, I am pretty happy to know that someone who actually does need them is going to get them... In such a rare case I would be more then happy to just be in the top 25 for the meaningful ISO and HP reward...

    I actually think that if you need/want covers, there's no question of anything, however if you just want the ISO... well that's not entirely OK in my book - although I do know that's it's perfectly fine for a lot of people. I would have thought that it's not OK for D3 either, since they wanted to discourage aiming for top just to sell 4* for HP

    However I think that this discussion has gone way off topic >.> I bet (and actually encourage) mods to move it into a new topic since it's probably not the place for it...
  • I see where you're coming from morgh, but with 60k-100k people playing any PVP event, and each bracket divided into 500 people, there's plenty of 'loot' going around.
  • morgh
    morgh Posts: 539 Critical Contributor
    It does look like that, however is not that great on a closer look - only 2% get 2 covers (yellow + red) and red is given to top 10% - which is still not that much icon_e_wink.gif
    (not daring to venture how many people get covers from alliance rewards)
  • True again, but for much of the player base, that are 1 star or making the 1-2 star transition, it makes little sense to be concerned about their ability to win one of the 15 three-star characters. It becomes more like a 300-400 HP penalty (to increase roster size), instead of a reward.
  • Unknown
    edited May 2014
    Of course we are gonna compete in pvp, even if we had all covers for patch or whoever. Why wouldn't we? It's a competition where all points count towards the end is it not?

    That's like saying Real Madrid let Athletico win the UCL because they already have a trophy
    Tiger Woods deciding not to play to finish as he won it last year
    Some weird american sport team letting another weird american sport team win
    Usain Bolt slowing down at the finish line to allow someone else to win

    It makes no sense, it is player vs player after all, a COMPETITION. Maybe you would have seen it before, before the season thing started but now its every guy and team for themselves.
  • morgh wrote:
    Yeah - that's a good excuse to tell to yourself.

    I bet that it also just feels good when you think "I got those 3 covers which mean additional 1500 ISO and one person less who would otherwise be that bit closer to being able to compete"

    It definitely feels good to get the extra 2500 iso (from 1st place) and that is why I do it. I don't take pride in "stealing" other covers from people. I worked hard to get to a point where I can do reliably well in PVP. If they want it, they can too.