Upcoming Character Change to Wolverine (Old Man Logan)
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This is tragic. Even with two additional teammates, OML (at my lvl 457) will only be able to regain about 320 health the turn after a teammate fires a power. Forget making it through the match if you fire more than one ability in a turn repeatedly.0
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I think it only shows up if you have a token for it, like standards and elites.0
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they should have this for every 5* we want to sell and u can hit the slot machine till we win.
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pheregas said:This is tragic. Even with two additional teammates, OML (at my lvl 457) will only be able to regain about 320 health the turn after a teammate fires a power. Forget making it through the match if you fire more than one ability in a turn repeatedly.
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Whee! I can sell my level 451 Old Man Logan for 7 whole tokens. That's an insult. It's such a bad conversion rate that they might as well have not wasted their time coding it into the game.
My options remain sucking up the over 20% nerf to his black and radical reduction to his yellow and keep playing with him as I always have or delete MPQ off my phone.2 -
I personally don't care that you nerfed OML, but you really ended up creating more problems than you probably anticipated. Especially with problems that already exist for 5* players, i.e. PVE scaling/MMR/Too Few Health packs. OML was really not that OP, unlike BB. All this said, I think this was a bad move/precedent. I'll no longer renew VIP/spend, just one little fish in the sea of spenders, but I think it's only think devs pay attention to. If playing the game becomes more tedious because of the drain on health packs, I"ll just leave the game. It's been a few years at this point, it may just be time.
Oh and you made Carnage garbage. Let's call him Carbage.10 -
and it's about the money......
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So my 457 Logan gives me 380k iso and 10 tokens!!! Whoooohoooo!!!
No seriously, it is 570k iso to champ a 5! And I have 'invested' 20 covers. So, a bit more than half of the iso, and half of the covers. I wasn't planning on selling him, but this is a serious rip off.
Then my strikes went form close to 900 to 681, and the healing from 5.5k a turn to 2.8k a turn (1478). Red does 2.6k for every power fired.
All in all, I guess he is still usable in PvE, but he is super easy to beat now in PvP. You just need to kill the 3 and he is in a world of hurt already (he can barely keep up with 5 match damage). For me, he is no longer a viable option for PvP (Bolt now cuts through him like if he was made of butter :P). He is still great when transformed though, so that is still an option (the changes to his yellow there are not as strong).
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tiomono said:Here is my take on the old man.
I am in my early 4 star transition. I have several champs and am trying to get more of the stronger ones added in. My highest level one is level 273. I think I have 7 of them champed.
My old man is 270 2-2-0. I just went through my first 4 clears on hearts of darkness using Logan, black suit spider (who is at 1-2-2 lol 255) and my 3 star Dr strange. I subbed out spidey for the essentials. I did not use a single health pack. Let me say that again I did not use a single health pack. That was doing 4 clears on every mission (2 on wave nodes) with no break.
While champed he may not be the best of the 5 stars. But you cannot convince me he does not need toned down a bit at early levels. He allows you to breeze through parts of the game while taking no damage. That by definition is o.o. you cannot convince me otherwise.
Oh, and my OML is level 270, 3/4/0 and only valued at 8000 iso and 1 token. 7 5* covers = 1 5* token?
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This looks as though it has gone weird...
Only have limited data on this, but it seems as if people who weren't using their OML are binning him for some value while the people who have been using him are sticking with his nerved version.
I'm sure there's a lot more going on on top of that but has anyone else seen this?3 -
Oh, and my OML is level 270, 3/4/0 and only valued at 8000 iso and 1 token. 7 5* covers = 1 5* token?0
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Anyone else smell the irony of carnage and OML changes. OML tanks Black, Carnage fires cheap black causing OML to drop strike tiles to supplement attack tiles.
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day 1147 on/off competitive pve player here. I've spent a little bit of money early in my playing days for hp for roster slots. I have been quite fortunate with the rng gods (and daily resupply) to have a 5/4/4 oml. earlier this week, I pulled the 14th oml cover, but held off on championing him because of the nerf rumors. I have only leveled him up to 270. my excitement of the possibility of having my first 5* champ has now turned into disappointment. more than likely, i am going to sell the cover because he's only going to be jacking up my scaling.
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I sold my OML, got unusable covers from the 7 tokens, told my alliance I'm quitting and am deleting the game. You guys have pushed, and pushed, and pushed your customers with these bad decisions and I'm taking my money and time elsewhere. I spent far more money than I ever should have but tinykitty I did enjoy playing this game.
But guess what? You guys don't care about your customers. I posted a negative review in the store, told everyone who would potentially listen not to spend any more money and will be removing the game from my phone and tablet.
Thanks for making it so easy for me to stop playing, Demi!7 -
Still no word on numbers, guess we'll find out soon enough.
Seems a bit convenient I got my third cover for him yesterday , now that he's getting nerfed
I have a cramped Medusa so I don't really need him anymore as I've only had healing covers for him.
Just hope they leave ice man alone and what's left of the prof x widow combo0 -
I just can't anymore. This move was the last straw. I refuse to even try out NO-ML. I feel like I've wasted the last year of my life chasing covers...3
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I still can't quite believe that no one from D3 has the nerve to respond here to each of the valid claims made, and they're going ahead anyway. Group them together and respond - it's (edited typo here) pretty easy to summarise the consistent complaints here.
- Inadequate compensation: random tokens in place of specific investment of large amounts of CP? Based on character level rather than number of skill levels opened up? What is this? Make the compensation so poor that people won't sell and then turn around and say "see? People kept their OML, we were right"? Absolute garbage.
- Why should players have any confidence in continuing to invest time and/or money into the game when they can nerf at will without consulting the community of players?
- Provide some transparency rather than the current straw man argument and statistical claims. Let's face it, most people here seem to believe it's about the $ for healing pots avoided - most have their counters for OML and there exist far superior, un-nerfed (to date) 5* characters.
Way to manage your community of players....5 -
I just sold all 118 characters for Iso, deleted the app.
Eat it D3.9 -
I know I'm still going to play the game but they will not get any more money from me. No more VIP, no more hp for roster spots. It's a shame really3
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RtW said:I know I'm still going to play the game but they will not get any more money from me. No more VIP, no more hp for roster spots. It's a shame really
*This is not a threat to quit. This is just me transitioning to casual play only.1
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