dlaw008 wrote: Okay, so I've allowed myself to be convinced that Shieldbro is good. Heck, he's one of my favorite characters and I WANTED to be convinced. Now I'm itching to dump some covers and iso into him. So where does he fit on my existing three star team. I've got maxed Hulk, Black Panther, Punisher, and Patch, as well as 128 Cmags and 100 GSBW. He looks to pair reasonably well with BP, what's the third here? I have enough green users, goodness knows. I'm thinking possibly GSBW? Her green is nice, she brings an excellent (though not when used by the AI) purple power to the table, and her red doesn't really conflict with Cap's. I don't know about Patch in this setup, since you really want to bring someone like Cmags with him, and while Punisher seems like never a bad choice, I think he might be here due to his red and black semi-conflicting with his teammates. Hulk is fine, but it's just not striking me right now. What is the prevailing opinion here?
dlaw008 wrote: While I'm not sure this belongs in Shieldbro's thread, I think MBW can get nine Blue in 5 turns relatively frequently and if her team can't kill at least one guy during that time, something is wrong. 27 blue for MBW is as close to a guaranteed stunlock as you will see outside Spiderman. You would stun the guy you meant to kill on turn 1. Attack him. Then stun guy B on turn 2, Attack guy A again, then stun guy C on turn 3, attack guy A. At turn 3 guy a is stunned for 2 more turns, B 3 more turns, C four more turns. Keep collecting blue and concentrating your attacks on the soonest ending stun. This is basically what you do in a 1* tourney to maximize your health packs.
gamar wrote: HailMary wrote: locked wrote: Rorex, whatcha talking about? mBW stuns the entire enemy team for 1 turn and the targeted character for 5 turns at lvl 5 blue with 9 blue AP. Unless that's what you were trying to say. She's not the character to stunlock anyway, maybe with IM 40 or MMN. That's... exactly what he's saying. With 27 B: select enemy 1, MBW-stun, select enemy 2, MBW-stun, select enemy 3, MBW-stun. Et voila: 5-turn team stunlock! The huge startup-cost differential between MBW's 5-turn team-stun and Spidey's essentially endless team-stun, though, is, ahem, huge. 5 turns isn't generally enough to kill an enemy team. Generally when people say they have a "lock" they mean they can almost always continue it indefinitely, or close enough to indefinitely to ensure a victory. Otherwise it isn't a stun-lock, it's just a stun.
HailMary wrote: locked wrote: Rorex, whatcha talking about? mBW stuns the entire enemy team for 1 turn and the targeted character for 5 turns at lvl 5 blue with 9 blue AP. Unless that's what you were trying to say. She's not the character to stunlock anyway, maybe with IM 40 or MMN. That's... exactly what he's saying. With 27 B: select enemy 1, MBW-stun, select enemy 2, MBW-stun, select enemy 3, MBW-stun. Et voila: 5-turn team stunlock! The huge startup-cost differential between MBW's 5-turn team-stun and Spidey's essentially endless team-stun, though, is, ahem, huge.
locked wrote: Rorex, whatcha talking about? mBW stuns the entire enemy team for 1 turn and the targeted character for 5 turns at lvl 5 blue with 9 blue AP. Unless that's what you were trying to say. She's not the character to stunlock anyway, maybe with IM 40 or MMN.
dlaw008 wrote: Well first let me state that, for me, defense is really an afterthought. My Hulk is maxed due to his ability to cover Punisher on offense. As far as defense is concerned I figure if I'm worth a lot of points I will be attacked no matter what my team is and I will lose because the AI is that bad. Not that I mind because I like playing against a bad AI sometimes, too. So, strictly speaking as an attacker, I'm not too worried about Panther's blue or yellow conflicting with Cap. Blue goes to Cap, Yellow goes to Panther, although yellow won't be a priority to match. I suppose I should level my Hood more, but then I'm cutting into ISO for Cap. Hood is currently 60. The Hood and Cap team up definitely rules out Panther, though. Cmags is great even on his own, but has less synergy without Littlebunnypunpun or Patch. GSBW means not leaving purple on the table and has a good green. Will hood ever cover her on black? No matter who takes it I guess I'm exposing a weak character on a bunch of colors, including possibly green, depending on where Cap goes. It's an interesting discussion.
NorthernPolarity wrote: On offense I think Hood / Cap / GSBW is probably the optimal team composition you can go for right now. Cap wants red/blue all to himself. Hood wants black to speed up Caps countdowns. This leaves you needing purple/green/yellowish, which leaves GSBW as the best 3rd to go for. Your roster, on the other hand, is pretty awkward. The main issue is that Cap wants blue/red all to himself, but almost every single character on your roster has either a blue or red ability. I think Cap / BP / GSBW is probably the most synergistic team comp you can go for here if you want to exploit Cap. Neither character mains red/blue so they don't interfere with Cap, and they have some pretty good abilities to round out the color wheel. Sub GSBW out for Hulk or Patch on defense.
Puritas wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: On offense I think Hood / Cap / GSBW is probably the optimal team composition you can go for right now. Cap wants red/blue all to himself. Hood wants black to speed up Caps countdowns. This leaves you needing purple/green/yellowish, which leaves GSBW as the best 3rd to go for. Your roster, on the other hand, is pretty awkward. The main issue is that Cap wants blue/red all to himself, but almost every single character on your roster has either a blue or red ability. I think Cap / BP / GSBW is probably the most synergistic team comp you can go for here if you want to exploit Cap. Neither character mains red/blue so they don't interfere with Cap, and they have some pretty good abilities to round out the color wheel. Sub GSBW out for Hulk or Patch on defense. I've been thinking about this comp myself The main draw to using Cap for me is getting surprise defense wins with cap + hood synergy while I'm climbing I don't really see that happening with GSBW using red randomly though If I'm switching teams for defense anyways I'd rather put in a full hp wall team, which is probably gonna look like hulk/lazythor/daken soon also re the post above me Why would you want gsbw covering hood Hood's the ideal first teammate to go down, and their hp is very similar at max anyways
Puritas wrote: a full hp wall team, which is probably gonna look like hulk/lazythor/daken soon
HailMary wrote: Puritas wrote: a full hp wall team, which is probably gonna look like hulk/lazythor/daken soon Yep. That'd be an extremely annoying defensive team. I very much look forward to getting my hands on such a monumental annoyance. That said, Shieldbro seems tailor-made to take down Hulk + Dakenator. You do need someone to stop LThor from using his powers, though. Hood/OBW, perhaps.
NorthernPolarity wrote: I think BP would be better than Hulk in that team composition. Since Dakens color priorities are Green -> Black -> Purple, black is going to be a high priority match for the AI. Since no one on your team can use black, it'll go largely wasted, whereas a BP would change that completely. You might even consider BP over LT and keep Hulk on the team if you wanted maximum annoyance, but LT is probably good enough to win you games on defense whereas Hulk might not.
dlaw008 wrote: I really love the Shieldbro designation, but I can't decide by looking at his portrait if it is really merited. I think he may look a little more metrosexual than bro.... I bet he man-scapes.
Puritas wrote: I've been thinking about this comp myself The main draw to using Cap for me is getting surprise defense wins with cap + hood synergy while I'm climbing I don't really see that happening with GSBW using red randomly though If I'm switching teams for defense anyways I'd rather put in a full hp wall team, which is probably gonna look like hulk/lazythor/daken soon
Phaserhawk wrote: I agree, I think Cap and Hood are gonna be great defensively, it's just finding that 3rd guy that won't mess with Cap much. So as I said we need a green, purple to complete the rainbow, and someone who won't interfere with Caps blue and red or Hood's black since his black is oh so good with the CD tiles. I honestly think Hulk is probably the best pairing followed by Patch. And if you put Hulk front and center he'll tank red for Cap as they are both 60. If you are okay giving up Caps's red and yellow up, then you can look at Thor, and if you are okay with giving red up, the new Human Torch may be a good pairing as well.