bonebreak wrote: People dont use Hood for his yellow power. That nerf is laughable..... The Sentry one I think his rupture needed to be adjusted. I dont really like a double nerf to any power though. Pick one thing and see how it goes IMO. It's been an issue with this game you wait to long to make adjustments and then you adjust too much. Why not just increase the ap without making 3 turn tiles and see how it goes for a couple weeks or a month? But I think his doesnt need to take more damage on his yellow. Every ability he has does damage to him/team. There is no reason to up the damage on yellow. Clearly way of D3 wanting people who use sentry to pay for health packs even more.
NorthernPolarity wrote: bonebreak wrote: People dont use Hood for his yellow power. That nerf is laughable..... The Sentry one I think his rupture needed to be adjusted. I dont really like a double nerf to any power though. Pick one thing and see how it goes IMO. It's been an issue with this game you wait to long to make adjustments and then you adjust too much. Why not just increase the ap without making 3 turn tiles and see how it goes for a couple weeks or a month? But I think his doesnt need to take more damage on his yellow. Every ability he has does damage to him/team. There is no reason to up the damage on yellow. Clearly way of D3 wanting people who use sentry to pay for health packs even more. Christ people. "Demiurge nerfs a character" - Obviously a ploy to sell more health packs by making games harder to win on offense. "Demiurge buffs a character" - Obviously a ploy to sell more health packs by making games harder to win on defense. "Demiurge introduces a new PvE event" - Obviously a ploy to sell more health packs by making people want to actually play the game more. "Demiurge makes any single little gameplay change" - Obviously a ploy to sell health packs, because all we do on this forum is complain, and we see any little change to the status quo as a cash grab because Demiurge is obviously this evil entity that wants to steal all our money.
bonebreak wrote: People dont use Hood for his yellow power. That nerf is laughable.....
Ben Grimm wrote: bonebreak wrote: People dont use Hood for his yellow power. That nerf is laughable..... No, but people who use Hood use his yellow, and the nerf makes it unusable. It's gone from being a power like his black - usable but nothing special; at least it won't cause problems - to something like functionally useless and that could actually lose a match for you.
NorthernPolarity wrote: I'm still surprised that everyone is calling this ability unusable. 15AP for 5.7k damage, maybe a cascade, and guaranteed CD tile destruction is really not that bad, and while ending the turn sucks, if your turn would only consist of a match-3 anyways, its not even that big of a deal.
Ben Grimm wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: I'm still surprised that everyone is calling this ability unusable. 15AP for 5.7k damage, maybe a cascade, and guaranteed CD tile destruction is really not that bad, and while ending the turn sucks, if your turn would only consist of a match-3 anyways, its not even that big of a deal. It's because the ability leaves Hood in front with a largely fresh board. It's usable as a finishing move, but if there's anyone left, there's a reasonable likelihood, at higher levels, that they'll take Hood out completely the next turn. The AI tends to save moves for when he's in front.
scottee wrote: This is an exaggeration. You leave Hood in front anytime you make a match with his color. Let's say it sets Hood up to take a match-4 in the face. That doesn't insta-kill him. I'm convinced the MPQ forums emit some drug that cause posters to catastrophize everything.
Ben Grimm wrote: ... that they'll take Hood out completely the next turn. The AI tends to save moves for when he's in front.
scottee wrote: Ben Grimm wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: I'm still surprised that everyone is calling this ability unusable. 15AP for 5.7k damage, maybe a cascade, and guaranteed CD tile destruction is really not that bad, and while ending the turn sucks, if your turn would only consist of a match-3 anyways, its not even that big of a deal. It's because the ability leaves Hood in front with a largely fresh board. It's usable as a finishing move, but if there's anyone left, there's a reasonable likelihood, at higher levels, that they'll take Hood out completely the next turn. The AI tends to save moves for when he's in front. This is an exaggeration. You leave Hood in front anytime you make a match with his color. Let's say it sets Hood up to take a match-4 in the face. That doesn't insta-kill him. I'm convinced the MPQ forums emit some drug that cause posters to catastrophize everything.
scottee wrote: I still maintain that he could have Prehistoric Arms and Ballistic Salvo, and I'd still bring him for DA.
scottee wrote: When I checked the Hood character page around the time the nerf was announced, around a third of the people already favored 3/5/5, so for 33% of players, the announced change is a 0% nerf. For the other 2/3 of the player base that had yellow at 5, what percentage do you feel this lowered Hood's effectiveness? 5%? 10%? 30%? I like his old yellow, but only end up using it between 5-10% of matches, and the majority of those times, I have other options that would win the match almost as efficiently. People are essentially saying that the overall nerf to Hood, including the end turn on 5 cover yellow, is too much of a nerf. I would still argue that even after the change, DA alone still makes him top tier. When see a Hood in a node, will you now say, "I didn't like facing him before, but now that his yellow sucks, bring him on."? Or is anyone here planning to use him less now that his yellow is nerfed? I don't know about you, but whenever I bring Hood, it's 100% purely for his blue. I still maintain that he could have Prehistoric Arms and Ballistic Salvo, and I'd still bring him for DA.
Pylgrim wrote: I see lots of people saying "pfft who cares about his Yellow anyway. And even if you care, it's not that the nerf is very drastic." But there's also the point of principle. Twin Pistols did not need a double nerf. Hell, it didn't need a nerf at all other than figure a way to stop it interacting with charged tiles. But sure, change it away. The issue appears when the introduce an even more unnecessary change with the weakest of reasons that further nerfs the ability. If we are trying to make the game varied, abilities that are not broken should not be nerfed. Making a yellow middle-to-good ability like Twin Pistols weaker, just encourages people to increasingly only use Battleplan or Thunder Strike for their yellow needs.
Phantron wrote: If you were using Twin Pistols to get a couple missing AP to finish someone off in the past you can just kill them with Twin Pistols now. If you're using The Hood with Sentry it's pretty much unfathomable why you'd be holding your yellow in the first place over just dropping another Sacrifice unless you're trying to conserve your health for some reason. Except for the ultra high level PvE fights there isn't going to be a case where you're going to use Twin Pistols more than once because things just don't have that much HP in the first place for you to make 10 yellow matches before the game is decided unless you spent the whole time matching the wrong colors. Now it does matter for PvE against extremely high level opponents because these games do last long enough for you to use Twin Pistols more than once and the AP gain does matter when you can use it more than once, but they're (hopefully) a very small part of the overall game experience. I don't think I have any fight in TaT where I could've possibly used Twin Pistols more than once. The really hard ones you don't even have the time, and sure it's probably a bit better to be able to grab 3-4 AP of whatever color you need to fire off a move like Surgical Strike than straight up 5K damage, but then you also could be sitting at 3 black and will be nowhere close to that. There's only a small handful of moves that's better than a 5K hit. They'd have to be at least Rage of the Panther tier, and you've to already start out pretty close to hitting it because counting on a 5 yellow match move to provide the last AP is just a generally bad idea. If I need Surgical Strike I match black. I don't start trying to find 15 yellow on the board so I can hit a few more black anywhere on the board.